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nicholas0: wait im on. aim 5.0 of course it dont fucking work
Shopgirl: because is ass
Phlud: asssss
Phlud: 8-)
xhs8mmlp: ass
nicholas0: so what does partial support mean for aim
nicholas0: what exactly is implemented
Shopgirl: AAAASSSSS (throws NES in trash)
xhs8mmlp: Ass !
xhs8mmlp: FUUUUUUUCKKK !!!
wlftst55: phlud and john
wlftst55: Ass...
gumsl123: Hey Nicholas, you do know AIM will be abandoned, right?
RobbyPopa: what's the future of the AIM and NINA now. Animadoria?
RobbyPopa: all obsolete?
Shopgirl: Taken and nuked
nicholas0: nina is for all purposes dead
John Travoltage: AIM is gone for good, no doubt - no word on Skype and Napster.
nicholas0: yahoo has nuked nina
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xhs8mmlp: oh yeah Anima, why tf is saying hi killing the chat ?
WinReset: good evening
wlftst55: good evening winreset
nicholas0: skype and napster were part of nina and nina is gone so...?
nicholas0: maybe they could be part of escargot eventually, but they're focusing on msn right now so
WinReset: skype is now under crosstalk
D4rkW1ng: the yahoo lawyers are hunting with anti-tank rifles, yall ready?
WinReset: napster is canned
nicholas0: ah
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John Travoltage: Where did you hear that?
xhs8mmlp: we cant say hi anymore ?
D4rkW1ng: hi
WinReset: hi
xhs8mmlp: embarassing
nicholas0: really sad for nina and escargot to get hit with 2 devastating blows at relatively the same time
Shopgirl: ANTI-TANK WEAPONS?! IN MY HOUSE!?
gumsl123: Darkwing, are we getting old yellered?
WinReset: neener getting lawyered lol
kaisnkk1: hi
Shopgirl: my ass itches
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WinReset: bruv wth
wlftst55: true story
WinReset: I don't think neener's going to shutdown lol
nicholas0: what is neener
nicholas0: oh nina
nicholas0: ?
Phlud: Yahoo eats buffalo diarrhea
xhs8mmlp: neener's last momems
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RobbyPopa: damn... looks like in the future escargot would take one last hit and that's it for them
RobbyPopa: and for us, users
WinReset: ???
WinReset: what
D4rkW1ng: Check it in, check it out, it's the summer bluesTear it in, tear it out, it's a real excuseCheck it in, check it out, it's the summer bluesTear it in, tear it out, it's a real excuse
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Shopgirl: DOWN IN FRONT-
vb: fire in the hole
Phlud: put the joint down!
redcobs7: meow
John Travoltage: I am such a dummy, how do I log in to WLM under Crosstalk?
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secondsight05: nina's servers are now a bomb waiting to explode
vb: i'm changing mag cover me!
WinReset: epik burger
wlftst55: @John Travoltage using same credentials you used to sign up
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Shopgirl: 16 pages of Nina/escargot from side we are eating today
Phlud: on your six
14003 has entered the room.
14003: penis
RobbyPopa: let me rephrase that, WinReset. One bad hit for escargot and escargot will be the same as nina is currently in.
Phlud: uranus
Shopgirl: on my fuckin ass, get me some AT-4 please
secondsight05: nina never, crosstalk forever
xhs8mmlp: yess
Phlud: yo mama
WinReset: oof, well crosstalk is whatsoever taking over so if escargot gets lawyered then everything's gonna be fine
RobbyPopa: crosstalk chat?
Shopgirl: 9 people is online on MG guys
wlftst55: mg?
14003: aaaaaaaaa
John Travoltage: I tried my email and it didn't work
wlftst55: what client are you using?
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seXy: :-P
John Travoltage: The pre-patched 8.5
WinReset: T-24 hours until the big kaboom
Shopgirl: im buying BMW E38 today guys
RobbyPopa: okay, guys, i didn't know that crosswalk does exist, for me
Shopgirl: T-24 HOURS UNTIL TRVTH NUKE
RobbyPopa: crosstalk*
wlftst55: i'm using 8.5 also but the patched version
wlftst55: and it works alright
Phlud: hey seXy 8-)
vb: (h)
WinReset: neener fire edition is also gone now lol
Shopgirl: gay
14003: what h
D4rkW1ng: I FEEL LIKE A MILLION DEUTCHMARKS
xhs8mmlp: but we might have CTFE CrossTalk Fire Edition
seXy: O:-)
trollface69: yup
Shopgirl: I EAT PEOPLE
redcobs7: wbk
vb: i see dead people
14003: what h
xhs8mmlp: H
Phlud: =-O
vb: h
xhs8mmlp: H IS LIFE
Shopgirl: shoot people with trvth nukes
xhs8mmlp: h nukes*
vb: hegrenade
Shopgirl: you getting eaten today
xhs8mmlp: hrenade
Phlud: *assassinates Shopgirl*
nicholas0: WHAT H
xhs8mmlp: H
Shopgirl: *dodges* nuh uh fuck you
vb: FIRE IN THE HOLE!
vb: ROGER THAT
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Phlud: All clear
Shopgirl: GET 240'S ON THAT STREET
Phlud: 5x5
vb: TAKING FIRE NEED ASSISTANCE!
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Phlud: whats ur 10-20?
RobbyPopa: okay, it's not bad woht crosstalk, it's on early stages, though...
Phlud: rip vb
xhs8mmlp: he is the brain
Phlud: fire in his hole
RobbyPopa: with*
Shopgirl: 10-20 iraq rn
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vb: nou
D4rkW1ng: i know all of you crosstalk are witnessing this #fixWLM
John Travoltage: Oh thank goodness it's not just me :-!
seXy: :-!
Shopgirl: light up that nearest building
wlftst55: wlm2009 does not work for me on crosstalk but 8.5 does
RobbyPopa: :-!:-!:-!:-!:-!:-!:-!:-!:-!:-!:-!:-!:-!:-! :-!:-!:-!:-!:-!:-!:-!:-!:-!:-!:-!:-!
xhs8mmlp: /beans
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seXy: :-!:-!:-!:-!:-!:-!:-!:-!:-!:-!:-!:-!:-!:-! :-!:-!:-!:-!:-!:-!:-!:-!:-!:-!:-!:-!
14003: yaoi ur yuri
xhs8mmlp: beanie weenie
14003: or
WinReset: neener
vb: weiner
xhs8mmlp: beenee weenee
xhs8mmlp: neenee esceenee
WinReset: escroto
xhs8mmlp: escroto XD
Shopgirl: we are getting robot yuri in space with GDR theme
WinReset: escroto is no mo
trollface69: guten tag
WinReset: hallo
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WinReset: RIP
D4rkW1ng: no one is gone
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vb:
Phlud:
WinReset: are they finally shutting down?
xhs8mmlp:
vb:
Phlud:
vb: ß
xhs8mmlp: ¹
14003: what
D4rkW1ng: hello?
Phlud:
secondsight05: that server bomb is finally exploding
Phlud:
D4rkW1ng: can you see my messages
Phlud:
John Travoltage: Yes
RobbyPopa:                                                                                                                                    X D
vb:
Phlud:
xhs8mmlp: +&ËÏÐâEa-,++5
WinReset: the lawyers found the server room
D4rkW1ng: we all still here?
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vb:
Phlud: 8-)
Shopgirl: where the fuck my bomb got taken
RobbyPopa: We all are here, just waiting
vb:
xhs8mmlp: guiltee
John Travoltage: I think we would know if the plug was pulled, yes?
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D4rkW1ng: KABOOM?
vb: Ô
seXy: +
WinReset: I think we would all just get kicked
Phlud: 8-)
seXy: :-!
Shopgirl: shake that thug ass :fire:
John Travoltage: :-$
xhs8mmlp: Ameema Oreea
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14003: penis
xhs8mmlp: Amiibo Oreo
vb: p
Phlud: {s con/con
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vb: {S drop
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14003: six seven
xhs8mmlp: kentucky fried chicken is a chicken that has been fried in chicken in a place called kentucky
vb: fdfsdffkdsfdsd;fsdfmd;fkdfksl;dkf;ldkfl;d kfl;
swirlystone5877: ok what in the hell happened this timewhy is nina.chat website fucked
John Travoltage: C&D from Yahoo
D4rkW1ng: NINA IS GONE
xhs8mmlp: beeaaowwn
RobbyPopa: But seriously guys, is there any hope for AIM on crosstalk, i don't see it in the download page?
secondsight05: it's in a state of limbo
swirlystone5877: > C&D from Yahoono fucking way
vb: Due to reasons beyond our control, that we wish weren't the case... all web, social, promotional, etc. services have been shutdown.MSN is still available at Escargot, but you won't find anything here anymore.It's been fun.
D4rkW1ng: RobbyPopa - AIM is in the works afaik
RobbyPopa: more like it's in downward spiral/
John Travoltage: Believe it
xhs8mmlp: it's pre-Death
swirlystone5877: c&d for an old ass protocol that they arent even running anymore
xhs8mmlp: aliolio
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swirlystone5877: it was reverse-engineeredeven then they could have just removed yahoo support
RobbyPopa: D4rkW1ng - So more waiting, got it
John Travoltage: That would not be enough... Yahoo bought AOL, they have the entire thing lock stcok and barrel :-(
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swirlystone5877: oh...god dammit
RobbyPopa: oh boy...
swirlystone5877: at least we still have msn
RobbyPopa: that's at least
xhs8mmlp: Yahooey Boughtey AOLEY
xhs8mmlp: heheheeee
14003: what are your pronouns
swirlystone5877: > at least we still have msn...until daddy microshaft penetrates escargot too of course
xhs8mmlp: penetrates????
swirlystone5877: idk i tried to make a good analogy
xhs8mmlp: like infiltrating like secret agent
swirlystone5877: im not going to respond to thatgood luck
RobbyPopa: seems like crosstalk didn't made the patcher either. oh well, at least we have instructions of how to add.
swirlystone5877: :ack:
xhs8mmlp: dun dun den dee dun dun
RobbyPopa: or how to patch
John Travoltage: It was mentioned in here previously that Microsoft has no qualms about the service itself; it's only usage of the MSN branding that got them in a twist.
RobbyPopa: oh...
xhs8mmlp: ELO EVEARUONE HOW DO E PATHC NONI ,,,,,?,
swirlystone5877: okey forst stp go to noni.chot and oh its DEAD
xhs8mmlp: noni.ben.chood
xhs8mmlp: XD
swirlystone5877: > We can’t connect to the server at noni.ben.chood.:<
swirlystone5877: fuck itits time for noni.swirly.architectenterprises.net
swirlystone5877: (it will point to nothing)
trollface69: eins zwei auf wiedersehen
xhs8mmlp: HELO EKSARGTO ERROR 814147283 HAS ANOYNE FEEX ?
secondsight05: run the patcher for the 34th time
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swirlystone5877: hehehe 34
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14003: rule 34 of nina
stitch: dude
swirlystone5877: no
secondsight05: how about NO
nicholas0: how would you even do that???
nicholas0: i dont think i want to know actually
14003: no I mean the 34th rule of nina is no what h
Shopgirl: naked aim icon holy shit
nicholas0: HOW WOULD YOU DO THAT
nicholas0: WOULD YOU JUST MAKE IT WHITE???
14003: LMFAOOO
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secondsight05: so... how long until that server bomb goes off?
vb has entered the room.
John Travoltage: ¯\_(
)_/¯
swirlystone5877: we now have https://noni.swirly.architectenterprises. net/
nicholas0: nina come back pls
RobbyPopa: XD
swirlystone5877: nina come back pls
nicholas0: anyway looking around the crosstalk server. why do so many people there hate nina and escargot
swirlystone5877: theyre just jealous
nicholas0: jealous that nina got murdered by yahoo?
xhs8mmlp: lol
swirlystone5877: of what we had but sure lets go with that instead
nicholas0: yeah i know
nicholas0: apparently management problems and such... wondering why nobody said anything about that earlier?
xhs8mmlp: noni and snailfartgot
Phlud:
nicholas0: and ever so conveniently i only hear about this after nina gets nuked to the sun?
nicholas0: well, nina was fun while it lasted
swirlystone5877: lets hope this is some big joke
nicholas0: i doubt it
swirlystone5877: oh fuck i have to take the aim section down on my website
nicholas0: SHIT I DO TOO
nicholas0: i should probably be replacing it with crosstalk
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xhs8mmlp: i alr did replace my thing from escargot to CrossTalk alr
nicholas0: swirlystone what is you sending
nicholas0: moon runes?
swirlystone5877: boykisser
swirlystone5877: :3
nicholas0: i cant see it
nicholas0: so
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vb: :-*
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John Travoltage: Well, at least Braille is one set of Unicode characters that doesn't blow up AIM... guess it's just emoji that break everything
swirlystone5877: fucking jumpscare
swirlystone5877: got disconnected
xhs8mmlp: pingu be crying like a bitch
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nicholas0: should go patch my wlm to go to crosstalk i guess
xhs8mmlp: yeah just go crosstalk
Phlud: crisscross
nicholas0: i'll keep aim open on nina for it's final hours
xhs8mmlp: Yeah me too
RobbyPopa: me not.
nicholas0: uuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhh i dont wanna patch wlm to go to crosstalk
swirlystone5877: i definitely will
nicholas0: ill just get a prepatched version and reinstall it
RobbyPopa: me too
swirlystone5877: hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
swirlystone5877: can pidgin even talk to crosstalkone moment
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nicholas0: i tried oscar prpl with crosstalk and it didnt work so
xhs8mmlp: imagine email and crosstalk combo
swirlystone5877: what about wlm then
RobbyPopa: oh boy...
nicholas0: maybe
John Travoltage: Tell me if you can pull it off, I have been trying for an hour and getting nowhere :'(
xhs8mmlp: outlook 6 and msn 3
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swirlystone5877: replaced the aim section on my website
nicholas0: ill do that later
nicholas0: oh wait this makes me wonder
nicholas0: does wlm 2009 on crosstalk prepatched fix the w11 24h2 bug by default
John Travoltage: There's a separate installer that comes inside the ZIP file you download.
swirlystone5877: wheres the crosstalk website
nicholas0: https://crosstalk.im
swirlystone5877: thank you
nicholas0: i'm on crosstalk now!
swirlystone5877: moving Soon™
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14003: haaai
nicholas0: if anyone wants to add, i'm SuperMYL or nicholas@supermyl.top on crosstalk
14003: ok!
swirlystone5877: hell yeah, self-hosted email
swirlystone5877: unfortunately i dont have this luxury
nicholas0: its not actually selfhosted its just a forward LOL
swirlystone5877: oh
RobbyPopa: imagine the discord server of crosstalk explodes in popularity
nicholas0: porkbun did give me a free trial for email hosting
swirlystone5877: yeah imaine
nicholas0: it ran out, tho
nicholas0: still pretty cool
swirlystone5877: > porkbun did give me a free trial for email hostingwhen the
nicholas0: i love the wine file browser its so beautiful (I CAN'T SELECT AN IMAGE IN IT)
RobbyPopa: one thing that'd be good though is to make a chatroom that's like last call
nicholas0: anyone got crosstalk here?
John Travoltage: I finally figured it out
xhs8mmlp: pina.fammok.chot
nicholas0: ill start adding people
RobbyPopa: not me yet.
swirlystone5877: > i love the wine file browser its so beautiful (I CAN'T SELECT AN IMAGE IN IT)fucking SAME
Shopgirl: ass
swirlystone5877: ass
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nicholas0: test
nicholas0: ok
14003: I have crosstalk, nicholas0
14003: yaoiprincesspeach / yaoiprincesspeach@gmail.com
swirlystone5877: i have it but i dont have a client yet
swirlystone5877: same username as usual for aim794759 for icqswirlystone5877@disroot.org for wlm
nicholas0: you arent online 14003?
14003: oh shoot yeah sorry I forgot
nicholas0: its fine lol
14003: I can reboot into my other win 10 part now xD
14003: since I'm on aim here
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nicholas0: wondering if contacts from wlm transfer over to aim
nicholas0: on crosstalk
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RobbyPopa: on registration, i'd just put any fake email or just real ones?
RobbyPopa: on crosstalk
swirlystone5877: real ones
nicholas0: real ones
RobbyPopa: oh...
nicholas0: you can put a fake one... it doesn't actually check...
nicholas0: but im pretty sure recovery uses your email
nicholas0: so
Shopgirl: you better use real if you will forgot the PW, but then you can change it after to different one
RobbyPopa: as long as i can remember the Email
John Travoltage: Someone try adding me... johntravoltage@seganet.com
nicholas0: yeah you're there
RobbyPopa: oh i'll remember the PW
nicholas0: not online on my end?
nicholas0: unless you just don';t have the client open
John Travoltage: No, I have it open...
nicholas0: what the hell
nicholas0: can you try adding nicholas@supermyl.top
14003: is anyone in the crosstalk discord?
John Travoltage: Nope, says you're offline too
nicholas0: wh
nicholas0: oh you're there now
RobbyPopa: i am on crosstalk discord
RobbyPopa: rn
14003: what's ur user on the discord robbypopa?
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RobbyPopa: Robert2003
14003: oka
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14003: my head hurts lmao
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invislol: hello good people of nina :3
water: {S drop
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Phlud: {s drop
swirlystone5877: {s drop
swirlystone5877: lovely
invislol: {s drop
RobbyPopa: i notice that this is the most people we have online probably in history of this community, in this chatroom
RobbyPopa: we have the most people*
swirlystone5877: ok so
Phlud: death brings people closer
swirlystone5877: pidgin no worky
RobbyPopa: like the funeral
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invislol: i think if you use an older version of pidgin it works
14003: aaa
14003: fiuxed
14003: fixed
Phlud: i tried 2 prepatched versions of msn msgr and no workie
invislol: which ones
xhs8mmlp: Animaballs
Phlud: 6.2
Phlud: and idek the other one
invislol: hm
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invislol: i'm using 2009 but i've had success with 8.5, and the 7.x versions
xhs8mmlp: escargot.china
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14003: escrotum
xhs8mmlp: pussy and shitkargot
14003: yes
invislol: how in hell did this start...
RobbyPopa: all of a sudden
RobbyPopa: overnight
14003: can someone invite luisleandro2005 to this chat
invislol: sure
invislol: any reason?
14003: he went offline
invislol: ah
14003: he's trying to get in but web aim is so shit it wont let me incite
14003: invite
xhs8mmlp: i also tried inviting em
invislol: damn it
invislol: didn't work
RobbyPopa: not available
invislol: he might have hopped off
trollface69: nicht verfügbar
14003: n
seXy: 8-)
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xhs8mmlp: nyöm
trollface69: beans
xhs8mmlp: pina pussy integrated noodle ass
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xhs8mmlp: CI STIAMO CAGANDO SOTTO !!!
trollface69: wir sind verloren
invislol: . . .i dont understand this :P
Phlud: 8-)
xhs8mmlp: aboba
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luisleandro2005: What H
xhs8mmlp: H MENTIONNED !!!
invislol: hlo!
trollface69: boba tea
invislol: truly a peak drink
luisleandro2005: pepsi
Phlud: coke
luisleandro2005: sprite
invislol: a&w root beer
trollface69: geiles getränk
John Travoltage: Dr. Pepper
Phlud: canada dry
trollface69: fritz kola
invislol: ah, a fellow canadian. well then: nestea iced (sweet) tea
xhs8mmlp: BOBATEAISAMAZING
invislol: indeed
xhs8mmlp: e
xhs8mmlp: oktobafestyeer
seXy: surge
xhs8mmlp: adaptage surge
Phlud: jolt
trollface69: oktoberfest kommt bald
invislol: welp time for me to go
invislol: cya guys!
trollface69: tüss
luisleandro2005: cya
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xhs8mmlp: khebabb fammok trighesporo ficchex AOOOO AOOOOO SPACCA TUTT SPACCAEH
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xhs8mmlp: YAAAAAAH ! instramurtgram kitestratok strattok trattor e trik e trak
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lukewt1017: what
lukewt1017: the
lukewt1017: hell
lukewt1017: why was the WEBSITE shut down
xhs8mmlp: because it's about to end ?
lukewt1017: you can still make a screen name for AOL Instant Messenger, Yahoo Instant Messenger, ICQ, etc. on Escargot though
lukewt1017: are these our last NINA moments before it gets shut down?
trollface69: prob
xhs8mmlp: Yes
lukewt1017: ah shit
xhs8mmlp: like if its dying it's dying
John Travoltage: Here's my thing... I thought that three hours ago and yet we're still here :-\
xhs8mmlp: yeah
nicholas0: these are nina's last hours
lukewt1017: it must be taking a while
nicholas0: it has to shut down eventually
water: l
water: p
xhs8mmlp: to be honest i don't fucking care if this platform dies
lukewt1017: my buddy just registered yesterday :-[
lukewt1017: why
nicholas0: hope to see a lot of you on crosstalk once nina dies
xhs8mmlp: ofc you'll see all of us
lukewt1017: what's crosstalk
nicholas0: apparently there were management issues on nina and escargot's end, which...... man i don't know
lukewt1017: xhs
lukewt1017: why dont you care
lukewt1017: ???
nicholas0: whar
xhs8mmlp: cuz that shit sux
nicholas0: also crosstalk is uhhhh
nicholas0: another wlm/aim/y!m/all that jazz revival
lukewt1017: no it is a great service
nicholas0: nina was good while it lasted
xhs8mmlp: it's dogwater
lukewt1017: in a few hours, that "is" is gonna be "was"
lukewt1017: now's a good time to test if the warning system works
nicholas0: on crosstalk?
nicholas0: nina supports it i know that
lukewt1017: on nina
lukewt1017: oh let me see
water: sfc /scannow
water: wrong box
nicholas0: rm -rf /*
lukewt1017: ping google.com
lukewt1017: edit
lukewt1017: dir
lukewt1017: cd C:\windows
lukewt1017: del *.*
nicholas0: lol
nicholas0: nina about to run rd C:\ /s /q
lukewt1017: you can't do that
xhs8mmlp: he warned me lmao
lukewt1017: all the directories are full
lukewt1017: full of stuff
lukewt1017: rd only works if the directory is empty
lukewt1017: which i know is stupid but that's how it is with DOS, Windows' terminal, and OS/2's terminal
nicholas0: i remember rd working, though
nicholas0: interesting
lukewt1017: agh escargot aim sounds horrible
nicholas0: wont exist because escargot probably learned their lesson with nina
nicholas0: they got a cease and desist from yahoo iirc
lukewt1017: they did?
lukewt1017: wtf
nicholas0: yea
nicholas0: thats why nina is dead
lukewt1017: aaaGHHH
lukewt1017: i like AIM moreee
lukewt1017: a8ywy8gebyuf
xhs8mmlp: then go to crosstalk
lukewt1017: what is crosstalk btw?
nicholas0: crosstalk has sort of aim 1-4 support
nicholas0: not finished
xhs8mmlp: yeah but still
xhs8mmlp: better than nuthing honestly
lukewt1017: oh
nicholas0: what all does crosstalk have implemented for aim
lukewt1017: AIM 4 is what i use
nicholas0: know basic chat likely is
nicholas0: but what isn't
lukewt1017: chatrooms? warnings?
nicholas0: find a buddy i dont see being implemented yet
nicholas0: likely not aim talk
nicholas0: or the. file sharing
nicholas0: whatever
lukewt1017: i hate how nina is in a world of shit
lukewt1017: it was the best service ever
lukewt1017: it's also drowning slowly in the world of shit
nicholas0: nina was very good yeah
xhs8mmlp: wasn't always good
xhs8mmlp: tbh
xhs8mmlp: i've heard a lot
lukewt1017: when it was new
xhs8mmlp: abt em
lukewt1017: it was unstable
lukewt1017: now it gets to its best point
nicholas0: i havent heard much shit thrown nina and escargots way
nicholas0: until today
lukewt1017: yeah me neither
xhs8mmlp: sometimes in life we should start from zero again
lukewt1017: i've heard microsoft fucking with escargot's images
lukewt1017: well, not in this case.
nicholas0: really hope crosstalk doesn't suffer the same fate as nina
xhs8mmlp: yeah i do hope that too
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lukewt1017: oh so that was bullshit then
nicholas0: the aol system msg kicks in
RobbyPopa: oh
gumsl123: Doubts.
xhs8mmlp: as long as we can doesn't mean it's gonna be always here
xhs8mmlp: but anyways
lukewt1017: yeah
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xhs8mmlp: my last message will be fuck this platform to hell
lukewt1017: eventually in the future i already knew from my first day of even using the service that it would be gone
leinb: well thi
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leinb: this is peculiar
nicholas0: well this stinks
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lukewt1017: oh no
zachpef: what did i miss lol. just saw the sys msg
lukewt1017: i just caught it
leinb: nina got cease and desisted
lukewt1017: AOL System Msg: NINA sites are gone, but the services will continue as long as we can: https://escargot.chat/news/1205000001013 00/what-happens-next/
nicholas0: nina got a c&d by yahoo
lukewt1017: i already saw that news post
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leinb: well this is certianly fucked
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progdotgay: o7
Masquerade: So what exactly happened?
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nicholas0: nina got cease and desisted by yahoo
lukewt1017: then they can remove yahoo?
leinb: yahoo owns aol
nicholas0: yahoo owns aol too
Masquerade: Oh, so by verizon. Was it jsut he yahoo branch or AIM too? cause they own both
lukewt1017: oh
lukewt1017: this is nice
nicholas0: so that would remove y!m... aol... aim...
nicholas0: leaving just icq and napster
nicholas0: napster was canned i do believe
leinb: icq is a aol company
nicholas0: and also that
nicholas0: so that leaves 0 services left
Masquerade: why are they even bothering, they killed yim and aim and have no replacement.
John Travoltage: No, ICQ went somewhere else before the end...
John Travoltage: Found it - ICQ went to VK in 2010.
lukewt1017: hope that's what they say in court
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Masquerade: I mean, there won't be a court, just a roll over and die
lukewt1017: SHIT!
John Travoltage: I mean, do you have enough cash to fund a lawyer?
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lukewt1017: hello kamper
lukewt1017: cy-
KAMP266: who are these other people
lukewt1017: Currently we're discussing NINA'S future
lukewt1017: it's a chatroom dud
lukewt1017: dude
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KAMP266: hello
MetalJack98: So y'all got the message too right?
lukewt1017: yes
RobbyPopa: yup
KAMP266: yeah
Masquerade: I know there's at least one other AIM service, though never heard anything great about it
lukewt1017: phoenix'
John Travoltage: Yeah... whether you like it or not, this is the end of the line.
lukewt1017: it's kinda shit honestly
KAMP266: it sucks
RobbyPopa: escargot is the last team standing
MetalJack98: I'm not panicking tbh. Far as I understand we just moving to Escargot.
Masquerade: Do what pokemon prism did- hand the keys to someone else and pelad ignorance
lukewt1017: i used to like MSN Messenger more
Masquerade: *plead
John Travoltage: I heard through the grapevine that the main mover behind Phoenix unironically used Windows Server 2003 as part of the thing...
RobbyPopa: i used phoenix in the past before moving in here
lukewt1017: i tried it in the past
RobbyPopa: from 2020 to 2021
lukewt1017: couldn't figure it out
nicholas0: MetalJack98: I'm not panicking tbh. Far as I understand we just moving to Escargot.
nicholas0: people are either moving to crosstalk or escargot
lukewt1017: and again i was a squeaker then
MetalJack98: Oh yeah I been hearing about Crosstalk too.
lukewt1017: me too
lukewt1017: nothing beats nina
lukewt1017: why even botheer
lukewt1017: bother
KAMP266: nina is better
Masquerade: I mean, the whole novelty of this was being able to just run old AIM again. even if none of my 'friends' are interested
lukewt1017: nina is getting beaten UP by yahoo but not beaten as a service\
lukewt1017: frfr
nicholas0: nothing beats nina
nicholas0: well nina doesn't exist anymore
nicholas0: so
nicholas0: you know
MetalJack98: I regularly talked to a friend of mine through AIM everyday. Glad I got other communication methods at least but still.
lukewt1017: it still exists
lukewt1017: legacy.nina.chat
RobbyPopa: one question remains, is AIM gonna move to Escargot or something?
nicholas0: aim's gone
John Travoltage: I tried for months to get my Discord friends to jump in... I only managed to bag three of them.
lukewt1017: not yet
nicholas0: aol is owned by yahoo, and yahoo sent the cease and desist...
nicholas0: so
nicholas0: it's just gonna be msn and wlm
lukewt1017: i mean what platform are you on right now
leinb: i am on aim 5
KAMP266: i use aim 5 too
nicholas0: we are on aim
leinb: aim 5 on xp
RobbyPopa: technically Verizon owns yahoo
MetalJack98: Isn't MSN compatible with AIM too?
lukewt1017: It's not dead until it quits working. People should stop saying something's dead before it is.
leinb: i have aim 7 on vista
John Travoltage: I'm the odd one out, I've got AIM 6 :-*
nicholas0: MetalJack98: Isn't MSN compatible with AIM too?
lukewt1017: AIM 4.8 on Windows 98
RobbyPopa: As far as i know
nicholas0: on crosstalk yeh
Masquerade: Yeah but a cease and desist is only aimed at either a none person or known organization. they'd have to send a new one. Kinda like how other third parties could still work on pokemon prism. Which was.. weird but okay
Masquerade: *known
lukewt1017: everyone look at KAMP266's directory info lmao
lukewt1017: my buddy
MetalJack98: Funny giuy
John Travoltage: Regarding ownership of Yahoo, Verizon sold 90% to Apollo Global Management in 2021 - so, strictly speaking, Verizon is only 10% to blame.
RobbyPopa: i alredy got registered in crosstalk, Username is RobbyPopa2003 if anyone's interested, but i won't be online there until Escargot's last breath
lukewt1017: i haven't yet
lukewt1017: i won't unless NINA quits working
nicholas0: RobbyPopa: i alredy got registered in crosstalk, Username is RobbyPopa2003 if anyone's interested, but i won't be online there until Escargot's last breath
lukewt1017: until*
nicholas0: escargot or nina
lukewt1017: dude i can't read that
zachpef: this is all crazy to me. not sure why yahoo cares about aim if its been dead for years. but i guess it is their intillectual property so
John Travoltage: Yup, that will do it.
nicholas0: mad that people are having fun
MetalJack98: Pretty much pulling a Nintendo.
nicholas0: and mad that nina and escargot are getting money that they could be making :-)
RobbyPopa: AOL shut down the servers in 2017
RobbyPopa: i think
KAMP266: yeah
zachpef: yea i was thinking it was a profit thing too but is it even technically considred profit if its all from donations?
nicholas0: technically yeah?
John Travoltage: I recall Apple hit Macintosh Garden with one not so long ago over iWork and iLife... and for some reason just those programs, as opposed to the hundreds of Mac OS builds.
Masquerade: I think the second you start paywalling stuff that isn't yours, you get into actual trouble
RobbyPopa: lukewt1017: i already got registered in crosstalk, Username is RobbyPopa2003 if anyone's interested, but i won't be online there until Escargot's last breath
RobbyPopa: you see it now?
RobbyPopa: or not?
MetalJack98: Yeah. Y'all remember Portal 64? That was solely donations and was considered for a profit.
nicholas0: but also robbypopa uh
nicholas0: nina or escargot
zachpef: wait what is crosstalk
nicholas0: another wlm/aim and all that jazz revival
lukewt1017: ???
zachpef: oooo
nicholas0: https://crosstalk.im
nicholas0: lots of people here are moving there
nicholas0: for aim
Masquerade: Well that's nintendo, and nintendo is unreasonable as all hell, sadly
nicholas0: and such
John Travoltage: No, I think Portal 64 was wound up preemptively to avoid complications from using the Nintendo SDK...
MetalJack98: That as the main issue
MetalJack98: Then again, libogc and the Wii homebrewing community fiasco.
RobbyPopa: Nicholas0 do i have to decide which is better Escargot or Nina? or correcting me with Escargot and Nina?
lukewt1017: Nintendo makes some good games but not good legal choices. They are a huge problem when it comes to the law.
RobbyPopa: agreed?
RobbyPopa: Agreed!
nicholas0: im trying to figure out if you mean escargot or nina in that
nicholas0: if escargot uhhhghhhhhhhhhhhh that isnt dying anytime soon
Masquerade: They sued some guy for 2 mil and won recently x.x
lukewt1017: They are unreasonable, and are just Disney + Apple. Proprietary software on their hardware, and stupid legal choices + weird characters at times.
Masquerade: Console modding should be legal, it's absurd
RobbyPopa: Just in case if Escargot got shut down someday in the future
John Travoltage: No, that was just because he violated the terms of an already agreed upon C&D.
RobbyPopa: now that nina is gone
lukewt1017: It was one guy. What kind of person has that money laying around, Nintendick?
Masquerade: He made money off modding systems, which, well yeah probably did enable piracy, but people like to mod for toher reasosn
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John Travoltage: https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2025/ 09/switch-modder-who-acted-as-his-o wn-lawyer-now-owes-nintendo-2-millio n/
lukewt1017: If someone buys a system, then they should be free to do whatever they want with it if it's above the law. I browsed the Web with my Nintendo Switch a long time ago. I could get sued for being someone that used the DNS server for that.
RobbyPopa: I think we all should chat this room as long as we can until AIM is down, right guys
Masquerade: Well now they will just brick your system and somehow that is legal
lukewt1017: Any judge in their right mind would not allow Nintendo to make a stupid decision like this. They need to be taught a lesson.
KAMP266: thats dumb
John Travoltage: Okay, but this paragraph from the article I linked to says it all: Nintendo's lawsuit alleged that the company initially approached Daly about the sale of these devices in March 2024, and that Daly agreed at the time "both verbally and in signed writing" to refrain from further sales. After Daly continued to sell the devices, though, Nintendo took the further step of bringing this lawsuit last June.
RobbyPopa: lukewt1017: Unfortunately, those times are over for most of us. since most of the tech gonna be closed source by companies/gouvernment.
MetalJack98: I also don't think Nintendo's "Remote bricks" are actually real either.
KAMP266: only 69.99 for 2gb of ram
Masquerade: Guy should not have agreed, but they would have sued him if he didn't anyway. Even though what he was doing technically isn't illegal
lukewt1017: It's really not legal. If I made a PC, sold it, and it had unofficial drivers for OS/2 3.0 when it came with Windows 95, I would not sue the man who made the drivers. These big corporations do not know what freedom is.
John Travoltage: Talking the remote bricking concept, I recall similar things being in the 3DS user agreement - but nobody cared back then for some reason...
lukewt1017: I'd even applaud the man and meet him in person.
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Masquerade: I did hear some things about the 3ds consoles being banned from online, but there was alsoa way around that
Masquerade: And a way that damaged innocent people.
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zachpef: well i just completely broke my AIM on my windows machine lol
RobbyPopa: lmao
lukewt1017: Dell didn't care that a 2014 system had unofficial Windows XP drivers. Nintendo shouldn't care if there's unofficial stuff on my NES.
lukewt1017: I will rub NESticle in their face if they try to do something.
RobbyPopa: they're afraid of losing ideantity and sales...
John Travoltage: I don't think they do - consider that it was Toshiba that made them change the name of the SD2SNES because of the "SD", not Nintendo over the "SNES"...
lukewt1017: Their consoles have a Nintendo logo on them. Clearly, it's a Nintendo console. Or the modder can say it's a modded Nintendo <whatever>.
Masquerade: It seems like some companies do that stuff though because they themselves are afraid of nintendo, like, premptively.
RobbyPopa: possibly because they're powerful company
lukewt1017: There are better ways to flex their power.
Masquerade: They keep getting granted patents they have no business getting meanwhile
lukewt1017: Bucket filling companies, giving us a bucket of bullshit.
KAMP266: December 6, 2024
lukewt1017: March 5, 2025
RobbyPopa: I think Nintendo would go EA, like in 1990s with purchasing companies, but instead of purchasing the companies, they make the games more... Closed source.
RobbyPopa: "like EA did in 1990s"
lukewt1017: The only Nintendo game I can remember being open sourced was unofficial. Super Mario Bros. for the Famicom.
RobbyPopa: Nintendo MADE the Famicom
Masquerade: Nintendo like, doens't though. They could have bought Rare, they did not. They could have bought Atlus, Sega did. Sega's been kinda smart recently
lukewt1017: Yes i know.
lukewt1017: I have a real NES, SNES, and N64 and there's no need to mod it but there's no reason to sue for $2,000,000 if someone did it to their own console.
John Travoltage: Okay, but that's just for yourself - this guy was doing it for other people, and doing it for a modern console; those two factors together are what tore it.
lukewt1017: It does not matter unless they did to the consoles that haven't been bought yet
Masquerade: Oh I know, but the question is- I bought the device, it should be mine to do with what I want, or to pay someone to do with it what I want.
Masquerade: Like, I'm not buying a switch 2. If I get another console, it will be a steam deck, becuase it can do so much more
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KAMP266: why get a switch 2 when you can get a ds/psp?
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Masquerade: And also the fact that nintendo just.. refuses to put games on the eshop
RobbyPopa: well they plan to make switch 2 as a service, as far as i know.
Masquerade: Yep, drip feed you trash for extortion prices
lukewt1017: Why get a Switch 1/2 when you can't do shit on them?
RobbyPopa: in my head, anyway
Masquerade: I want to play all the old games I already own, but like, over netplay in portable fashion
KAMP266: i heard you cant even go on the internet on the switch 1
John Travoltage: There's always room for SmileBASIC...! /s
Masquerade: Yeah switch 1 doens't have a web vbrowser
lukewt1017: You can.
KAMP266: by modding it?
lukewt1017: Use the SwitchBru DNS. I did this when the Switch 1 was a squeaker.
Masquerade: There was an exploit to do it I think
lukewt1017: No, my Switch was not modded. I used a DNS server.
Masquerade: The capability is there, they just didn't want people using it
lukewt1017: But every time I opened YouTube the browser opened.
lukewt1017: It was nice, though. Very nice.
KAMP266: ok
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RobbyPopa: make switch and switch 2 closed source, without modding AND as a service, only to buy games, and nothing else, and subscribe to nintendo service. like how everything is subscription nowadays.
KAMP266: 19.99 to use your desk. only 4 payments
Masquerade: Well that's the thing. They know that's where money is, and people keep allowing it to happen. Iwata is dead, there will be no good guy nintendo anymore
Masquerade: It's also why I hope sega doesn't do some sort of 180 seeing how they're actually doing well as a company again for once
RobbyPopa: yeah, we lost hope in nintendo
Masquerade: Yeah idc that Crossworlds is expensive. I care how Sega has largely been permissive of fan projects, and I hope they never turn on their fanbase
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RobbyPopa: me too
loganh4005: what the fuck happened
RobbyPopa: the bomb happened.
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Masquerade: We can't have nice things
chrmdr324: What the hell happened!?
RobbyPopa: check the news
Masquerade: To this? Yahoo cease and desist.
chrmdr324: Fucking assholes.
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Phlud: eat shit Yahoo
Phlud: 8-)
Masquerade: I hate corperations more and more each day. Because they stand for nothing and only care to make a house of cards where the people on top benefit and then leave the collapse for others to deal with.
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zachpef: connection issues :-(
loganh4005: how has PhoenixIM not been shut down, but NINA was?
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water: nina is more polished then that shit you call phoenix and btw phoenix was in the newa before too or whatever it was
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nicholas0: phoenixIM also uh
nicholas0: has 0 people
nicholas0: basically
nicholas0: i dont know a single person that uses it
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seXy: and phoenix is more broken then nina
seXy: wildman wouldnt even fix the damn exploits or stuff we found.....................
seXy: when we told him
chrmdr324: The people behind Phoenix are assholes, and they put an InfoWars ticker on their homepage, so now I know exactly what kind of people they are!
seXy: right they did
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seXy: they also got hacked a few times, getting everyones passwords
chrmdr324: It's a shame so many of these projects are run by people who aren't able to cope with modern society.
chrmdr324: NINA is/was one of the few that isn't.
loganh4005: yeah....
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seXy: sucks nina got the C&D but yet phoenix hasnt afaik
loganh4005: NINA was the only good way to IM on legacy iOS :-(
chrmdr324: What a shame.
chrmdr324: At least there's a whole lot of people online for however long this is going to last!
Xak: just getting home now.
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Phlud: shit hit the fan
Xak: chrmdr324: It's a shame so many of these projects are run by people who aren't able to cope with modern society. >> Are we all not using obselete tech for the same reasons>?
Phlud: 8-)
John Travoltage: No, I just prefer the aesthetic ;-)
chrmdr324: I'm using it 'cause it's fun and it represents an Internet that wasn't so heavily censored and controlled.
Phlud: im a nostalgia nerd
Xak: Right. But you're dogging someone for exercising their rights to do the dame
Xak: same*
Phlud: fight fight fight
Phlud: TO THE DEATH
Xak: What if you're already dead?
Phlud: oh dang
chrmdr324: The person I'm "dogging" aligns themselves with a dangerous ideology that I refuse to associate with.
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BIGBADAUD999: Hello chat
11111: hi, guys. i know everybody's upset right now, but just wanted to say, that i feel like a small part of me died after the news, even though i haven't been that active here. because these old services, especially ICQ, had meant a lot in my life some time ago, so it was interesting to see a project like this. i know, a lot of people are feeling the same way now, so obviously not gonna say i'm special... just wanted to express what i feel. can't imagine what the staff members feel about this after the hard work done
BIGBADAUD999: huh...
BIGBADAUD999: what's up?
Phlud: its the end of the world as we know it
John Travoltage: NINA got vaporized by a cease and desist notice from Yahoo.
Phlud: and i feel fine
BIGBADAUD999: Ik
BIGBADAUD999: i heard..
BIGBADAUD999: I hate Yahoo
BIGBADAUD999: Yahoo trying to take everything from us
BIGBADAUD999: Like microsoft did
Xak: is anyone surprised by this? seriouskly
Phlud: nope!
Xak: they were committing copyright and trademark infringement
Phlud: see it so many times
BIGBADAUD999: I'm angry on Yahoo
Phlud: seen*
Xak: ZFZor protecting their own property?
seXy: {S Drop
BIGBADAUD999: Yahoo doesn't have logical issues
Xak: How so
Phlud: {s gotporn
seXy: =-O
Phlud: 8-)
BIGBADAUD999: First they shutted Yahoo Messenger and now just trying to say that people doing copyright. Even tho people doing that for best to make everyone happy that finally they can use old messengers from 2000s again
John Travoltage: I don't think it's that simple: Escargot is still going for it, and as I understand it they had a close encounter with Microsoft at one point where they got told to dial back the MSN brand usage.
chrmdr324: The only "copyright infringement" is the use of the old logos, and that's easily solved.
Xak: Obviously I'm all for the old messengers but I saw this coming 4 years ago when I found NINA
BIGBADAUD999: oh..
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Xak: ^that's a guy that doesn't know what the fuck theyre talking about
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Xak: So is it time to bring out the tools they wouldn't let me anf go out with a bang?
John Travoltage: I never said I was a lawyer... :-P
loganh4005: I mean how much of NINA was really infringing? I don't see how the wiki would cause so much god dam trouble
BIGBADAUD999: sadly.. RIP Nina.chat..
nicholas0: i think the reason it got cease and desisted si
nicholas0: is
nicholas0: yahoo wanted them to change the logo away from an aim styled one
nicholas0: ...and they didn't comply
chrmdr324: Most of it was legally reverse-engineered anyway. I don't see why the actual server-side couldn't be open-sourced in the worst-case scenario.
nicholas0: so yahoo killed nina
BIGBADAUD999: That's really no fair
loganh4005: is that it?
Xak: It actually was not legally reverse engineered
John Travoltage: Ironically, AOL actually did try and open up OSCAR during the AIM 6 era - that went away with AIM 7, though.
loganh4005: I would also say that having the downloads on the website was a bad thing
nicholas0: i dont think that's part of the reason though
Xak: It could be as simple as using a logo without permission. It doesn't take much
nicholas0: doesnt take much yeah
Xak: AOL took the AOL-Files.com domain in 2002
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loganh4005: I don't see why a logo would prompt taking down everything
Masquerade: Likely someone else could start a neo-nina and they'd have to go through the whole process again. But yeah companies are protective of property.
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leinb: hello
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BIGBADAUD999: Wait but will AIM keep work...?
BIGBADAUD999: at least...?
Xak: Not sounding like it will here. Let's hope some code gets open sourced
BIGBADAUD999: oh...
BIGBADAUD999: i hope...
loganh4005: My WLM has been crashing on start for the past year, how can I fix it crashing on start
Phlud: insert your salami into the floppy drive
nicholas0: test
chrmdr324: It's still working, at least, for now...
BIGBADAUD999: i hope it's will keep...
BIGBADAUD999: we lost NINA... but hope we not gonna lose everything that Yahoo steal from us...
nicholas0: they have to shut it down by the end of september 12th
nicholas0: or so i've heard
BIGBADAUD999: Ik cuz... Yahoo is egoistical... company that is doesn't care... even tho NINA did good work to make people happy again...
nicholas0: still hoping crosstalk aim support gets somewhere more than just partial support. but i know they're working on it
BIGBADAUD999: I'm been really happy when i found NINA...
BIGBADAUD999: :-(
BIGBADAUD999: i was accept nina as my internet mother :-(
BIGBADAUD999: or father idk
BIGBADAUD999: :<
nicholas0: crosstalk will still be there if you want aim again :-)
BIGBADAUD999: TWT
czarinasqueaks: wait so whats happening??? Is nina going away? :'(
nicholas0: yeah
nicholas0: it's gone.
nicholas0: these are the last hours of nina
czarinasqueaks: ughhhhh :'(
BIGBADAUD999: Yahoo is monster
czarinasqueaks: this is heartbreaking
czarinasqueaks: so yahoo sued?
nicholas0: cease and desist
BIGBADAUD999: Yahoo killed nina
nicholas0: they might sue
czarinasqueaks: couldn't we just drop yahoo support anyways? it was always crap
nicholas0: well
nicholas0: yahoo owns aim
Xak: Yahoo owns AOL
nicholas0: and aol
loganh4005: Yahoo own AOL]
czarinasqueaks: ugh
Xak: Apollo owns Yahoo
nicholas0: so that would wipe out half the services
czarinasqueaks: so dumb
loganh4005: well rip my NINA Patcher for iOS :-(
nicholas0: make a crosstalk patcher :-)
czarinasqueaks: anybody starting a service like this not in the US?
BIGBADAUD999: Yahoo is really took everything from us...
BIGBADAUD999: :-(
seXy: CrOsStAlK
czarinasqueaks: i thought it was just the discord drama
nicholas0: okay i'm sounding like a broken record by mentioning crosstalk thius much
nicholas0: not sure if there's any not based in the us, but
BIGBADAUD999: Well but then Yahoo comes and ended NINA in the final...
John Travoltage: It can't be helped, not everyone is looking at this chat at all times...
czarinasqueaks: what's crosstalk? o.o
czarinasqueaks: like just using MSN?
nicholas0: crosstalk is another revival service
nicholas0: it has basic aim support afaik, and it has wlm support (with basic wlm 2011 and 2012 support too)
nicholas0: and some y!m versions thrown in there
BIGBADAUD999: Well then it's is will be again long time revival but it's fine at least everything will work again right?
nicholas0: people will keep making revivals
BIGBADAUD999: Yea ik
nicholas0: you can't really kill them off forever
BIGBADAUD999: Mhm
czarinasqueaks: where's crosstalk from?
BIGBADAUD999: That egoistical companies won't take everything from us
BIGBADAUD999: We will keep fighting back against them no matter what
nicholas0: idk where crosstalk's from
nicholas0: i think it's in the us
BIGBADAUD999: :-)
czarinasqueaks: that's a problem tbh
nicholas0: looking in their discord they're trying to get legal stuff sorted out
nicholas0: so that they're compliant
czarinasqueaks: it needs to be at least the servers need to be somewhere our hegemoney can't touch
nicholas0: hopefully that goes well for them
czarinasqueaks: guess i'll make an account over there.. i'll probably install MSN and set it to escargot then set AIM on crosstalk lmao
nicholas0: that works!
czarinasqueaks: when will this stuff be shut down?
BIGBADAUD999: How i will get crosstalk?
Xak: possibly in a few hours in sounds like
nicholas0: if they comply with the cease and desist it should be gone by the end of today
czarinasqueaks: sadface
czarinasqueaks: yahoo needs to just die already
BIGBADAUD999: Wait guys where i can get crosstalk
nicholas0: https://crosstalk.im
BIGBADAUD999: Fr Yahoo is evil
BIGBADAUD999: Oh
czarinasqueaks: useless company that makes no products that matter
BIGBADAUD999: THXXX
BIGBADAUD999: Well
czarinasqueaks: honestly most of the dotcom boom companies were the beginning of the end
czarinasqueaks: we're there again with AI right now
czarinasqueaks: how do I log in with this account on escargot?
czarinasqueaks: do I still have an account or do I need to make another?
BIGBADAUD999: well if it's is been NINA account
BIGBADAUD999: then yea i think
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John Travoltage: My dad still uses Yahoo Mail :-P
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czarinasqueaks: i need to move my steam off of it tbh
czarinasqueaks: i don't even use it
BIGBADAUD999: Ik it's is the last hours of AIM... but well i still hate Yahoo...
BIGBADAUD999: I'm lost all my friends...
BIGBADAUD999: ...
czarinasqueaks: i switched the client to yahoo asia because the US one sucks
czarinasqueaks: now both of them are the same and suck
BIGBADAUD999: Yahoo took my buddies away from me...
BIGBADAUD999: this is hurt.. :-(
czarinasqueaks: yeah :-( we'll all probably be on crosstalk though
czarinasqueaks: honestly it'll probably be bigger than this was now
nicholas0: i think atleast half the people here will end up being on crosstalk
czarinasqueaks: assuming people will already using it
nicholas0: i have crosstalk msn open right now
czarinasqueaks: i just hate having to install MSN messenger
mweber721: So is AIM going away?
nicholas0: yep
BIGBADAUD999: soon i think...
John Travoltage: Yes, there is no other option.
nicholas0: aol, aim, icq, y!m, qlink, napster
nicholas0: all that is going away
nicholas0: besides the fact qlink and napster were never really there but
BIGBADAUD999: And all cuz of that Yahoo...
czarinasqueaks: we need to abolish all these useless companies
John Travoltage: And Skype
czarinasqueaks: yahoo should've died in the 2000s
John Travoltage: ...well, maybe Skype
czarinasqueaks: after their chat went south
nicholas0: skype was also
BIGBADAUD999: I lost all my friends... cuz of Yahoo
nicholas0: never really a thing
nicholas0: on nina
John Travoltage: Yahoo kind of did die - they fizzled out so bad the current Yahoo!, Inc. isn't even the same corporate entity anymore.
loganh4005: who is the user in this chat named the n word
nigga: yo mama
nigga: go clean your room son
Phlud: =-O
loganh4005: sigh
mweber721: What the hell happened? I just got AIM on my old Windows 2000 machine last week
nicholas0: nina is die
Xak: Several things within a short span of time
John Travoltage: Yahoo threw a hissy fit and sent a C&D order, so that's the end of that.
nicholas0: yep
Xak: Has the C&D been published?
nicholas0: nnno i do not believe so
John Travoltage: A razor-thin portion, just enough to give us a clue: "Yahoo Holdings Inc. and its affiliates including AOL Media LLC and AOL Membership Services LLC (collectively, “Yahoo”)"
John Travoltage: To my knowledge it was only published as a message sent here in this chat room.
nicholas0: wonder when nina will finally shut down
nicholas0: probably in a few hours from now
BIGBADAUD999: i think...
BIGBADAUD999: :-(
Xak: Let's live it up fellas
BIGBADAUD999: before it's shuts down
BIGBADAUD999: i say last words
BIGBADAUD999: It's is been good to chat here TnT
BIGBADAUD999: But Yahoo ruined everything
BIGBADAUD999: i hate Yahoo company for now on
mweber721: I just got here :-(
nicholas0: rip
BIGBADAUD999: i'm not gonna forget how they killed NINA
Phlud: it was more fun and lively earlier today
Xak: ··÷×(• The game mode has been set to: Solo
Xak: ··÷×(• xakAIMScrambler -› ON!
Xak: ··÷×(• The game is about to begin!
Xak: ··÷×(• The category is: Pokemon
Xak: ··÷×(• xakAIMScrambler -› New Scramble: "Buaraslub"
John Travoltage: Bulbasaur
Xak: ··÷×(• John Travoltage, you are correct! The word was: Bulbasaur
Xak: ··÷×(• xakAIMScrambler -› New Scramble: "saIyrvu"
Xak: ··÷×(• pokemon •
Xak: ··÷×(• You have 5 seconds to vote!
John Travoltage: Ivysaur
Xak: ··÷×(• John Travoltage, you are correct! The word was: Ivysaur
Xak: ··÷×(• xakAIMScrambler -› New Scramble: "Vsernuua"
Xak: ··÷×(• Time's Up! Here are the results:
Xak: ··÷×(• No one wants to play!
John Travoltage: Eh?
Xak: clicked the wrong button ;-x
Xak: the list is in order though let me load up a different one
Xak: ··÷×(• THE GAME IS OVER!
Xak: ··÷×(• xakAIMScrambler Scoreboard
Xak: ··÷×(• johntravoltage: 10
Xak: ··÷×(• xakAIMScrambler -› OFF!
Xak: ··÷×(• xakAIMScrambler -› ON!
Xak: ··÷×(• The game is about to begin!
Xak: ··÷×(• The category is: Ps1games
Xak: ··÷×(• xakAIMScrambler -› New Scramble: "nGiorTsmaur "
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John Travoltage: Gran Turismo
nicholas0: g
Xak: ··÷×(• John Travoltage, you are correct! The word was: Gran Turismo
Xak: ··÷×(• xakAIMScrambler -› New Scramble: "Fan as ynVlaIFIti"
nicholas0: g
seXy: g
seXy: g
seXy: g
seXy: g
nicholas0: aw it doesnt respond for incorrect answers
nicholas0: this is so sad
John Travoltage: Final Fantasy VIII
John Travoltage: Final Fantasy VII
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Xak: ··÷×(• John Travoltage, you are correct! The word was: Final Fantasy VII
Xak: ··÷×(• xakAIMScrambler -› New Scramble: "mnuTGio rr as2"
Xak: it struggles to stay within rate limits as it is
John Travoltage: I hope this list isn't in order too... it's awfully suspicious that Gran Turismo 2 is so close to the first one
Xak: It is to a degree yes haha
Xak: I havent worked on this prog in over 3 years
John Travoltage: Gran Turismo 2
nigga: ··÷×(• John Travoltage, you are correct! The word was: Gran Turismo 2
mweber721: The system message earlier said that "serivces will continue as long as we can." So we expect that to be just a few hours?
nigga: ··÷×(• xakAIMScrambler -› New Scramble: "FIIVtsa niy FlaIan"
nicholas0: the only guess i have is
nicholas0: oih wit
nicholas0: why am i scrolled up
dskooper: tony is currently fighting off at least one ceast and desist from aol and yahoo's legal team, i would not be surprised if the nina servers get nuked completely tomorrow
John Travoltage: See, I thought that several hours ago... yet we're still here
dskooper: i would give nina servers at most 1 week
dskooper: at some point the legal team is going to force tony to take the servers down
John Travoltage: Obviously we're not in a potential endgame situation a la Xbox Live, where you can stay on as long as you can manage it...
nicholas0: they already accepted the cease and desist
nicholas0: i think
BIGBADAUD999: ik...
nicholas0: cause nina is already dead
dskooper: the website is dead
BIGBADAUD999: We never will forget what Yahoo did
dskooper: clearly the servers are not
loganh4005: stuff in ther crosstalk server has really changed a lot of my opinion on NINA & Escargot.
mweber721: How is yahoo even relevant ? They became irrelevent when they didn't buy Google and Facebook in the early 2000s
nicholas0: loganh4005: stuff in ther crosstalk server has really changed a lot of my opinion on NINA & Escargot.
nicholas0: yeah same
nicholas0: kind of regret donating 30 bucks to nina and escargot now. but
nicholas0: no going back, i suppose
loganh4005: yeah
nicholas0: 30 bucks isn't really much anyway
dskooper: i would recommend everyone here read https://wink.messengergeek.com/t/nina-esca rgot-from-the-inside/26336
nicholas0: yeah no i saw that
dskooper: big compilation of what the fuck has happened
dskooper: some of the stuff in there i didn't even know myself
dskooper: like the fact that tony was practically running a ponzi scheme
dskooper: insane
dskooper: this is an aim revival we are talking about =-O
John Travoltage: Eh, it's really just par for the course if Club Penguin is any indication...
Masquerade: Could be Santee I guess
nicholas0: phoenix i will still say was the worst revival service probably
nicholas0: why would you use http. what were they cooking
dskooper: didn't phoenix's servers run on windows server 2003 at some point
dskooper: what a nutcase
nicholas0: yeah
nicholas0: crazy what was going on in the background of nina and escargot
dskooper: :-(
dskooper: i wonder how long escargot will stay up for
nicholas0: really wish it didn't end up like this, and everything just went perfectly, but i suppose we cannot have good things in life
John Travoltage: Oh my word I just figured out what this reminds me of: The really, really tall stack of failed Wii Shop Channel revivals that all collapsed under gross mismanagement at best.
dskooper: genuinely
dskooper: what is wrong with revivals
dskooper: and why can no one seem to get it right
dskooper: for every thing i see there will always be a failed revival
dskooper: :'(
John Travoltage: Well, WiiLink seems to be doing okay.
dskooper: wiimart seems to be trudging along too
chrmdr324: Most of the WFC revivals are fine.
dskooper: wiimmfi my beloved
John Travoltage: And of course there's Sudomemo, which has now been operating for longer than the original Flipnote Hatena.
dskooper: if wiimmfi dies i will die too
chrmdr324: Pretendo survives to this day despite the various controversies...
dskooper: sudomemo outliving what it originally revived is so funny and sad at the same time
dskooper: like why did nintendo can hatena so quickly
nicholas0: pretendo doesnt really have any good reason to hate it
chrmdr324: How much of the old Hatena has been archived, anyway? Did anyone attempt to crawl the servers before it shut down?
BIGBADAUD999: well i found crosstalk
dskooper: i assume sudomemo has some form of archive
nicholas0: nie
nicholas0: nice
John Travoltage: I seem to recall Sudomemo got their hands on a bunch of hard drives with the stuff on it at one point...
BIGBADAUD999: but yea i guess i'm on WLM now if NINA is dead now...
BIGBADAUD999: :<
dskooper: crosstalk's aim support is in development
BIGBADAUD999: Oh
BIGBADAUD999: well hope we will meet there again
nicholas0: aim crosstalk might work but ymmv
Masquerade: crosstalk hm?
chrmdr324: It stands to reason that a big enough botnet would've been able to archive every Flipnote ever posted.
dskooper: might as well move to crosstalk's msn/wlm
nicholas0: when crosstalk aim comes out we all can chat between msn/wlm and aim too
BIGBADAUD999: yea
nicholas0: a promise escargot 2.0 will never deliver, unfortunately
chrmdr324: :'(
dskooper: escargot 2.0 was a weed-enduced fever dream from tony himself
chrmdr324: What was Tony's handle again?
nicholas0: how far was escargot 2.0 in dev i wonder
dskooper: tonyshowoff or summat like that
nicholas0: tonyshowoff yeah
BIGBADAUD999: oh..
chrmdr324: I knew someone who went by "nickshowoff", was that a friend of his?
nicholas0: nick99nack?
dskooper: nick99nack?
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dskooper: wow
dskooper: same brainwave
invislol: hello people
chrmdr324: Yeah.
nicholas0: hi invislol
dskooper: hello invis
nicholas0: just in time for the final hours!
chrmdr324: Final hours? How long is the server going to stay up?
dskooper: "final hours" watch nina persist
nicholas0: maybe
nicholas0: maybe it'll persist
invislol: we don't know how long nina's going to stay up
nicholas0: it has to shutdown soon
loganh4005: I feel kinda taken advantage of, my only way for paying for stuff was Visa gift cards, this is not cheap, I used the visa gift card I reserved for domains, since I thought it was going to shut down otherwise.
nicholas0: yahoo already has a cease and desist out to them so it's just a matter of when, not if
dskooper: it HAS to. the legal teams are not happy at all
nicholas0: crosstalk is actually working with yahoo's ip legal team i think
nicholas0: so hopefully that gets sorted
BIGBADAUD999: Oh..
dskooper: iirc from the messengergeek thread, nina should be dead by TODAY
dskooper: or if you live in europe, yesterday
nicholas0: what timezone is tony in
loganh4005: It seems like it was mainly about the logo, if they had just removed it (why didnt they remove it???) it would have been fine.
dskooper: prolly somewhere US
chrmdr324: I'm hoping at least Crosstalk survives. Now, more importantly, I need to work out if I used my regular password for NINA/Escargot or not...
BIGBADAUD999: My buddy said
BIGBADAUD999: in ICQ he got message
nicholas0: the aol sys msg we got earlier?
invislol: (in response to earlier msgs) if we're looking for anybody to blame on it's yahoo's (verison's) fucking legal team
BIGBADAUD999: "NINA sites are gone, but the services will continue as long as we can"
dskooper: loganh4005 it was originally about the logo, tony just completely ignored it and ended up with another cease and desist saying it all has to go
nicholas0: yeah that was sent out a while ago
BIGBADAUD999: That's what he got in ICQ
invislol: *why did tony have to ignore it*
dskooper: because tony is an idiot
invislol: seriously if he had just did that one damn thing we wouldn't be in this situation
dskooper: i mean
dskooper: nina's logo was so blatant
invislol: true
dskooper: who was he fooling
chrmdr324: Good, I used a randomized password. No action required, then, and if anyone gets hold of the password database they won't get into anything else of mine...
loganh4005: Anyways NINA can *still* survive, they just have to change their logo and be done with the C&D
dskooper: i doubt that
nicholas0: no the cease and desist is already out
nicholas0: nina HAS to shut down
nicholas0: no turning back
dskooper: the second ceast and desist said "nina gotta go" and tony literally had to agree
chrmdr324: What I want to know is how we're all going to reconnect again...
nicholas0: i just imagine yahoo mailing tony a slip that says "cease and desist: sorry bud nina gotta go"
invislol: (i've already set up a crosstalk account for a post-nina world (IF it dies))
dskooper: that's the neat part, you don't.
loganh4005: They initially received a cease & desist for deceptive branding (their logo is pixel-for-pixel the AIM running man, recolored and flipped. they still use the AIM running man in some areas to this day despite AIM being shut down). They did not comply with this order, and as a result they received a second cease & desist ordering the shut down of the NINA service.
loganh4005: i see
nicholas0: loganh4005: stuff in ther crosstalk server has really changed a lot of my opinion on NINA & Escargot.
loganh4005: yeah
nicholas0: thats not what i meant
nicholas0: adajnkdsfkjnlasdf
nicholas0: I HIT CTRL C WHY DID IT NOT COPY
invislol: fucking hell
nicholas0: okay anyway. in response to how we are gonna reconnect again
dskooper: you don't
nicholas0: a
nicholas0: crosstalk
loganh4005: crosstalk server
dskooper: this is the beginning of the end
dskooper: for aim only
Masquerade: How dumb can you be. idk. And yeah there's still a running man AIM scheme for the webmail
chrmdr324: Somebody needs to make a master list of everyone's screen names so we can all find each other again.
nicholas0: if anyone wants to find me again, i'm SuperMYL / nicholas@supermyl.top on crosstalk
dskooper: just print screen the right of the window
nicholas0: my screenname isn't the same
nicholas0: so
John Travoltage: Sure, but that's not everyone.
chrmdr324: Yeah... all our active users are going to be here now anyway, it's the final hours...
loganh4005: I'm https://preloading.dev
invislol: i'm InvisTheColonthree/invisextra@gmail.com on crosstalk (using WLM2011 most likely or AIM)
dskooper: preloading thats your website ;_;
nicholas0: im adding you to my buddy list rn invis
loganh4005: yes
nicholas0: or uhhh
nicholas0: contact list
nicholas0: whatever
invislol: k
nicholas0: you get what i mean
loganh4005: has all my contact info
invislol: ye
dskooper: preloading have you signed up to crosstalk
Xak: I will be making more updates to AIM-Files.com soon. You guys can get my contact info from there
nicholas0: anyone else got a crosstalk account
dskooper: ds.kooper@outlook.com / kooper
Xak: If I end up joining it will be as Xak
Masquerade: sign up page for crosstalk? I've never heard of this and it's a very vague search term
John Travoltage: crosstalk.im
invislol: https://crosstalk.im/
dskooper: https://crosstalk.im
nicholas0: xak ok but what email
Masquerade: thx
nicholas0: you still need email for msn/wlm
nicholas0: so
invislol: damn it i wish you could nudge on aim
invislol: then i could get everybody to send their crosstalk contact info stuff
Masquerade: Will have the same username as here, make things simple
nicholas0: anyone else got a crosstalk account
invislol: k
chrmdr324: I can only give you guys my Discord at the moment. Anyone who wants to keep in touch can add me -- it's "Charmander324", same as most other places online.
BIGBADAUD999: not yet
John Travoltage: I've already made the hop - johntravoltage@seganet.com
BIGBADAUD999: but i will make it
John Travoltage: (your email doesn't have to be a real email)
BIGBADAUD999: people will find me as BIGBADAUD999@seganet.com
chrmdr324: That's neat.
invislol: *god damn it i thought it had to be a real email lmao*
nicholas0: what is seganet
chrmdr324: It was the online service for the Dreamcast.
nicholas0: oh right yeah
John Travoltage: *in the US - Europe had DreamArena
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dskooper: seganet? now thats a throwback
nicholas0: i made mine a real email
11337: bet
11337: bet
nicholas0: if you want to; try emailing nicholas@supermyl.top (PLEASE DO NOT SPAM ME FOR THE LOVE OF GOD)
invislol: nvm my email has been changed to:
invislol: invisthecolonthree@trans.gay
BIGBADAUD999: yea i created account
loganh4005: me@preloading.dev
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nicholas0: bigbadaud it says you havent signed up for an account
11337: bet
invislol: also everybody USE THE SAVE FEATURE IN AIM TO SAVE THIS CONVERSATION
loganh4005: already donmem
Phlud: already have been
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loganh4005: *done
invislol: k good
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chrmdr324: Invis: That's the plan. That's why I'm staying here as long as possible.
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11337: nou
Phlud: even shared on my site
11337: nou
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BIGBADAUD999: Oh anima left
invislol: ope anima's gone
Masquerade: Well Then. Someone stole my other common username and made a crosstalk for it? That's concerning
dskooper: there goes anima
nicholas0: oh shit
BIGBADAUD999: means AIM is going to be dead
nicholas0: john travoltage got dcd
invislol: NO
Xak: nicholas0, my email is xak@aim-files.com but I don't see myself using the MSN / WLM stuff. I'm here for AIM & AOL really
Phlud: same
invislol: thank god crosstalk exists
loganh4005: real question: will you continue to use escargot or no?
dskooper: aim shouldn't take too long
chrmdr324: I guess this might be goodbye... people are already dropping offline.
invislol: there's going to be a lot of nina users coming in hopefully
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Phlud: info in my profile
nicholas0: oh nvm reconnecting is possible
BIGBADAUD999: well people is have to go in crosstalk
dskooper: but please don't put pressure on any crosstalk devs about aim
invislol: also yes i'm going to keep using escargot out of laziness ;_;
BIGBADAUD999: Yea it's is happening like with AOL in 2017
chrmdr324: I'll check out Crosstalk in the future.
BIGBADAUD999: AOL shutted down AIM in 2017
dskooper: lest we forget what epicness had to go through while trying to re skype
BIGBADAUD999: and now is NINA turn cuz of Yahoo
nicholas0: gh i cant add some people cause i think i have to wait a bit
invislol: we remember the skype incident
dskooper: please be patient with aim development
BIGBADAUD999: well i will wait
BIGBADAUD999: and after i install
BIGBADAUD999: AIM again
BIGBADAUD999: but now i will use WLM
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invislol: (also i'm here for WLM believe it or not because they have 2011/2012 support xD)
dskooper: it will be ready when it is ready
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chrmdr324: I'll be as patient as possible -- I know this stuff is a labor of love.
BIGBADAUD999: ik it's been fun with yall buddies
dskooper: 2011/2012 support is still in dev as well
invislol: (and by them i mean CrossTalk)
chrmdr324: o7
invislol: ik but partial support is better than none
dskooper: o7
invislol: o7 to nina
nicholas0: why is it saying people cant be added to my contact list because they havent signed up
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nicholas0: WHAT
John Travoltage: It did that to me, you'll have to restart the program
BIGBADAUD999: WOAH
invislol: shittttt
nicholas0: John Travoltage: It did that to me, you'll have to restart the program
nicholas0: i did
BIGBADAUD999: oh..
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invislol: a lot of people aren't on the member list for crosstalk so many people from nina might not be as findable
nicholas0: if you all have a crosstalk account you should go on the member directory so that people can find you
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nicholas0: you unfortunately cant really find me on there but you know
BIGBADAUD999: oh
nicholas0: cuz my screenname is different
nicholas0: but its just . SuperMYL
Masquerade: I can't find myself or my alt. hm
invislol: you have to enable it in settings for your account
nicholas0: you need to make yourself visible in account settings
Masquerade: Okay I did
nicholas0: yup i see you there
invislol: found!
nicholas0: added to my contacts list
nicholas0: got 6 people so far
invislol: nice
invislol: haven't logged in with AIM yet because im on last call :P
invislol: same w/ escargot im too lazy rn to switch
nicholas0: hopefully there should be something like lastcall on crosstalk
invislol: hopefully
nicholas0: honestly the best part about nina for me was just being able to log in and hop on last call and talk to people
Masquerade: Yeah I havne't either, didn't feel like elaving this room yet
BIGBADAUD999: mhm
nicholas0: im horrible at individual conversations in these honestly
chrmdr324: I'm not leaving until I get kicked when the server shuts down.
nicholas0: social anxiety, mainly
invislol: can you make groupchats on aim crosstalk??
nicholas0: invislol: can you make groupchats on aim crosstalk??
nicholas0: not sure
nicholas0: would guess not but you can sure try
Masquerade: I guess it has a discord.
dskooper: i am running two virtual machines at once, vmware is not having any of it
invislol: bc if you can it'll be called "NINA Survivors" or some shit like that and we all meet up there if nina dies
nicholas0: wonder if there'll be support for chatting in an aim chatroom from. wlm
dskooper: what???
chrmdr324: Probably not...
dskooper: that makes no sense
nicholas0: that is theoretically
nicholas0: possible
invislol: if not then i'll just make a WLM group on crosstalk eventually
invislol: i'll switch over tomorrow
dskooper: lets just make a WLM group instead
invislol: ye
chrmdr324: I hope Crosstalk eventually tries to get AOL Desktop running.
dskooper: much easier process
invislol: especially since 2009 has full support
Phlud: dont hold your breath
nicholas0: except group chats only work on 2009...
nicholas0: i cant use 2009 unfortunately cuz linux
invislol: *god fucking damn it*
invislol: well everybody here is in the crosstalk discord right?? (at least those talking)
nicholas0: yeah
invislol: alright
Masquerade: I will be shortly
nicholas0: really is no winning with making a chatroom on the platform itself
dskooper: group chats work on 2009 only, anyone running msn 7.5 just joins a "group"
invislol: ah
dskooper: or older
nicholas0: i guess you could make a groupchat for wlm and a chatroom for aim
nicholas0: dskooper: group chats work on 2009 only, anyone running msn 7.5 just joins a "group"
nicholas0: oh right
nicholas0: it does technically work doesnt it?
dskooper: kinda
dskooper: also i use msn 7.5 because of personal preference
dskooper: its the last time microsoft used the msn branding
nicholas0: guess the best option is to just use aim or hope they find some way to allow aim users to invite wlm users into aim chatrooms
dskooper: and also it works spectacularly on windows xp
nicholas0: because i know wlm supports group conversations
invislol: i'm using '09 but going to switch to 2012 because i'm a freak who likes new wlm
nicholas0: i wanna try out 2012
nicholas0: i need to get internet working in my windows 7 vm first tho
invislol: aite
chrmdr324: They could always make a Web UI so that people who can't run a vintage client can still participate.
nicholas0: true
invislol: oh ye
nicholas0: or when aim 8 support rolls around
nicholas0: you know
nicholas0: that's web based
invislol: yeah
seXy: 0:-O.O-:0wñ£d ߥ m4t=
invislol: whut
Masquerade: Oh yeah, before this chat dies, in the spirit of all things old, I tried to get my romhack running on actual hardware. Unfortunately turns out a gba flash cart is not what you want to run gbc games. It dies every 5 secs due to poor emulation. Got a pic however
Masquerade: https://imgur.com/dYHqRDY
invislol: cool
nicholas0: sick
dskooper: epic
Masquerade: Thx. got a lot of work to do on it yet : /
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invislol: oh hi anima
chrmdr324: There exist native flashcarts for GB/GBC. They might be helpful for development.
dskooper: im sure inexpensive ones exist too
dskooper: hopefully
chrmdr324: The Everdrive GB X3 costs $44 US.
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nicholas0: oh animas back
nicholas0: ok
Animadoria: Hello
nicholas0: hi
invislol: hi anima
chrmdr324: Wait, it doesn't have a real-time clock, so it wouldn't be that useful for a Silver/Gold ROMhack.
chrmdr324: The X7, which does have an RTC, costs $134.
invislol: damn that's a lot of money
Masquerade: I ordered a ezflash jr to hopefully do what I want. I didn't realize stuff running off gba flashcarts is emulated not using the gba's native mode for gb/gbc
invislol: hm
invislol: didn't know that!
Masquerade: Most less complicated games might work on them, but Pokemon crystal does not like jagomba emulator at all
John Travoltage: As I understand it, it's physically impossible - literally, because the swap to GB mode is based on a switch inside the cartridge port.
chrmdr324: A lot of the GB hardware is accessible in GBA mode -- even the video hardware can be used in compatibility mode by software running on the ARM CPU.
chrmdr324: Most of the GB emulators for the GBA do that, AFAIK.
invislol: brb guys
invislol: back
loganh4005: hello amina
nicholas0: i feel like nina is just trolling yahoo at this point
invislol: probably tbh
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Xak: hmmm
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Xak: maybe water will join next ;-x
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Xak: LMFAO
water: bet
Xak: I'm about to hop on MF for probably the last time :'(
invislol: mf?
water: ;X
water: :X
water: x;
water: ;x
water: x;
water: ;x
water: x;
water: ;x
gumsl123: wha
gumsl123: you aight mate
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water: nou
water: LOL
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water: MF!!!!
MF: This could be the last MF time on my MF SN ;P
water: ¼
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invislol: what's MF im an idiot
water: mother f*cker
water: LOL
seXy: BETowÑËÐ>:o:-D:-P ;)¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯8-)
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loganh4005: h
water: h
MF: Damn took phlud out
water: lmfao
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invislol: ope
water: aaaASAsSaa
water: DADSDSASA
water: ';'
Phlud: lol
Phlud: gonna be a gap in my log now. fuck.
Phlud: oh well
invislol: i still have my log
MF: fiz give him your chat logs
water: ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US
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invislol: k
water: i dont log shit
water: lol
MF: o.0
loganh4005: i posted chat logs in the crosstalk chat
MF: NN9K?
invislol: phlud you on the crosstalk server
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Phlud: kinda, not really
invislol: ah ok
Phlud: probably wont be using it
water: -
water: �
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nicholas0: phlud you're not using crosstalk?
nicholas0: damn
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water: DAMN!!!!!!!!!!
Phlud: i tried but meh
Phlud: i did make an acct
water: back to phoenix i guess 8-)
nicholas0: fair
nicholas0: you just gonna head to escargot when nina dies then?
Phlud: pffft
Phlud: no
Phlud: i was only ever here for AOL/AIM
nicholas0: damn
nicholas0: fair enough though
water: hes an old hacker, this will be the que to retire
MF: phoenix is down rn
Phlud: yup
nicholas0: guess maybe when crosstalk actually gets their aim shit together
Phlud: last time ya'll see me
nicholas0: which will take a fair bit,
water: when is phoenix not down
MF: lmfao
MF: tbh I havent checked since april
water: the site says its "offline" lol
water: ssasASAsa
water: SasaaaAdsadasds
nicholas0: i think phoenix is just dead
Phlud: i went there a few months ago to scroll
Phlud: then came back here
water: o0o0o0o0
Phlud: 8-)
water: time to load blackout.exe 8-)
water: and scroll on phoenix
Phlud: lol
MF: I do miss those generous phoenix rate limits
Phlud: yeah
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nicholas0: ratelimits on nina arent that bad
MF: fizzy used to put punt codes in the chat history so any time someone would join they'd get crashed
nicholas0: unless you're outright spamming
MF: Yes, we were outright spamming haha
water: lol fizzy did not
water: lol
nicholas0: ahaah fair
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water: remember im still looking for the latest aim booter
MF: If you used AOL back in the day and know about macros, most of them are more than 7 lines!
MF: NN9K!
water: the aliens are cumming
water: :X
Phlud: lol
Phlud: classic
water: my fav macro
water: lol
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OnlineHost: water rolled 2 6-sided dice: 1 4
water: =-O
OnlineHost: water, the Magic 8-Ball says: Reply hazy, try again.
OnlineHost: MF, the Magic 8-Ball says: Concentrate and ask again.
nicholas0: WHAT
water: lmaooooooo
OnlineHost: Phlud rolled 15 999-sided dice: 379 102 616 60 62 180 604 606 171 238 783 488 501 65 224
water: =-O=-O=-O
nicholas0: WHAT H
OnlineHost: water rolled 2 6-sided dice: 5 2
OnlineHost: MF, the Magic 8-Ball says: Cannot predict now.
water: //q
MF: damn I asked if NINA was coming back
nicholas0: how do you use it
water: OnlineHost: Unknown =Q command.
nicholas0: /q
water: :[
nicholas0: //q
nicholas0: hbjm,z
nicholas0: i dont know
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MF: on AOL you enter =q
water: i wanted to permagag MF but nope
OnlineHost: Unknown =Q command.
OnlineHost: Unknown =Q command.
John Travoltage: Ugh, I keep getting bumped off
nicholas0: damn internet worse than mine
nicholas0: that's crazy
water: LMAO
nicholas0: what are all the OnlineHost commands
seXy: water stfu u little bitch
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OnlineHost: water rolled 2 6-sided dice: 2 1
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luser: {s drop
water: =-O
nicholas0: {s drop
water: {s filedone
water: {s goodbye
water: {S goodbye to nina
nicholas0: {s goodbye
nicholas0: goodbye nina
water: {s welcome
water: {s gotmail
OnlineHost: luser, the Magic 8-Ball says: Reply hazy, try again.
water: {s gotpics
nicholas0: =a
dskooper: {s goodbye
OnlineHost: Phlud, the Magic 8-Ball says: Yes - definitely.
water: {s gotpic
MF: AOL 5.0 goin crazy rn
MF: {s /con/con
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luser: {s filedone
dskooper: /con/con lmfao
nicholas0: {s /con/con
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dskooper: only real win9x users will know
MF: yes
water: who made me reboot my pc
water: :-(
luser: hehe
dskooper: hahaha
nicholas0: PFF
invislol: {s goodbye nina this was peak
dskooper: bro got conned
MF: {s aux/aux
dskooper: literally
nicholas0: did that actually work?
water: bro did con/con didnt he and i had to reboot
water: :-(
MF: yes it used to bluescreen people
dskooper: {s /con/con
water: dsdaasdsd
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dskooper: OH
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water: :'(
dskooper: wow it really is that effective
nicholas0: lmfao
luser: smh
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Xak: .·-·-·-·-·-·-·-·-··.
Xak: .·´ `·.
Xak: : :
Xak: : :
Xak: `·. .·´
Xak: :´¯`·. .·´¯`:
Xak: '·. •`·. .·´• .·'
Xak: `:--·´ `·--:´ ;´`;
water: bro about to get rated
water: bro about to get rated
Xak: `·. ' ' .·´ ; ;
water: bro about to get rated
water: bro about to get rated
water: bro about to get rated
water: bro about to get rated
Xak: ;`·-·´; (¯' '¯)
water: bro about to get rated
water: bro about to get rated
water: bro about to get rated
water: bro about to get rated
water: bro about to get rated
Xak: .––·´ `·––. `·. .·´
water: bro about to get rated
water: bro about to get rated
water: bro about to get rated
John Travoltage: What is this, a printer?
water: bro about to get rated
Xak: .·´ .·; ;. `·.: :
nicholas0: i'm ratelimiting myself
nicholas0: i'm ratelimiting myself
water: LMFAO
nicholas0: i'm ratelimiting myself
dskooper: rated
nicholas0: i'm ratelimiting myself
nicholas0: i'm ratelimiting myself
nicholas0: i'm ratelimiting myself
nicholas0: i'm ratelimiting myself
Xak: : : ; ; `·. ' :
Phlud: ruined!
Xak: `·. `·: ; `·-·´
water: LOLOL
Xak: `·. `·. ;
Xak: .·´ `·. `·.
water: macro kill FTW
Xak: .:´ :´ :´¯`·. `: `·.
Phlud: i want alien cum
Xak: .·´ `·.`·. '·-;-·'·-·'. `·.
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dskooper: alien WHAT
water: bro about to get rated
water: bro about to get rated
water: bro about to get rated
water: bro about to get rated
water: bro about to get rated
water: bro about to get rated
water: bro about to get rated
MF: just rated
water: bro about to get rated
water: bro about to get rated
water: bro about to get rated
water: bro about to get rated
water: bro about to get rated
water: bro about to get rated
John Travoltage: We're still going for it...
water: bro about to get rated
water: bro about to get rated
water: bro about to get rated
Animadoria: SOTP
water: bro about to get rated
water: bro about to get rated
water: bro about to get rated
water: bro about to get rated
water: bro about to get rated
dskooper: nah
dskooper: {s /con/con
dskooper: bye
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Xak:
Xak:
Xak: (¯`·._.·• Ðark Ðiablø Tøølz ²·º –› Måçrô Çõllêçtíôñ
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loganh4005: *sigh*
dskooper: stop trying to ratelimit
water: >:o
Phlud: 8-)
invislol: yeah i still have all this logged lmfao
John Travoltage: It even ends with a signature
nicholas0: invislol: yeah i still have all this logged lmfao
nicholas0: good
nicholas0: this needs to be engraved forever in history
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water: send it to the feds!!!!!!!!
nicholas0: NO
MF: yes the aliens are cumming macro is deff worthy of preservation
MF: for generations to cum
nicholas0: it absolutely is
water: LOLOL
dskooper: wtf is going on
leefymoon: no clue
Phlud: newb
invislol: lmao this is almost unhinged and i love it
John Travoltage: The saucy macro
dskooper: no need for this level of freak
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water: Macro Kit by Xak
water: Loaded
leefymoon: may i ask, what is going on with aim
Phlud: 6 feet under
water: wrf is that font
John Travoltage: To my eye it looks like some kind of Courier...
leefymoon: uhhh dunno
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John Travoltage: Is this your font?
AwesomeNameHere: nina.chat's website shut down. sad
nicholas0: yeah
Phlud: late to the party
water: no this is
nicholas0: and it's just a while before nina does too.
leefymoon: its simsum? i think
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Xak: (¯`·._.·• Ðark Ðiablø Tøølz ²·º –› ƒôñ† Førgêr
AwesomeNameHere: legacy website still up btw (legacy.nina.chat)
dskooper: i mean nina should die in around 4-5 hours
nicholas0: should
leefymoon: rip
dskooper: wait legacy is still up?
AwesomeNameHere: yes
nicholas0: im gonna go use the bathroom rq
leefymoon: kay
water: yooooooooooooooooo
water: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
water: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Phlud: meh
leefymoon: whats everyone's msn?
loganh4005: why would you say something
loganh4005: it's dead now
Phlud: phuck msn
water: yeah you tell em
Phlud: 8-)
invislol: invislol
Xak: bills gonna sue next
Animadoria: I rather not risk my existance because of it. We're taking out things a bit at a time.
nicholas0: did they just kill legacy.nina.chat
invislol: but its InvisTheColonthree@trans.gay on crosstalk
John Travoltage: About that - I tried adding you with that address and it didn't work, I had to use your old one
AwesomeNameHere: NO IT CANT BE
dskooper: Animadoria, will there be an announcement via aol system msg before the servers shut down
invislol: oh :P
invislol: i swear i changed it
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leefymoon: ah ok john, ill letyou know once i redownload wlm
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water: bro about to get rated
nicholas0: i would imagine there would be an aol sys msg before nina is gone for good
nicholas0: NOT AGAIN
AwesomeNameHere: rip nina.chat i guess
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dskooper: hopefully the message at least gives us like a few minutes
nicholas0: i would hope its atleast like 5 minutes warning
AwesomeNameHere: thats good but its still shuting down :-(
dskooper: ye i was gonna say that
nicholas0: give us time to say our goodbyes
Phlud: hurry up and kill it already
dskooper: damn
dskooper: what's the rush
water: damn brah
Phlud: 8-)
invislol: don't murder it yet
John Travoltage: invislol - in case you missed it, there's a second box on the page you have to put the new email into again (so they're sure you mean it)
invislol: ahh
nicholas0: John Travoltage what was their old one again
invislol: i did do that
nicholas0: invislol's
invislol: invisextra@gmail.com
nicholas0: sick
invislol: but now it's invisthecolonthree@trans.gay
nicholas0: does crosstalk not change the msn email when you change your account email
AwesomeNameHere: aim today is closed. if you leave you cant join back i guess
John Travoltage: No, it did it for me... make sure you're logging back into the web page with the new address, because the old one will still work for no good reason.
leefymoon: well were stuck here now!!! eheheheh
nicholas0: AwesomeNameHere: aim today is closed. if you leave you cant join back i guess
dskooper: seriously? oh shit
nicholas0: oh huh really?
dskooper: aim today nuked
nicholas0: what does that do
John Travoltage: But anyways! I made the hop to Crosstalk... if you want to add me I'm johntravoltage@seganet.com
nicholas0: id think nuking aim today would just make it uh. not appear
dskooper: the AIM URI might work though however somebody gotta test it out
dskooper: aim:goChat?roomname=lastcall
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nicholas0: oh do you join last call with aim today
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leefymoon: can some1 give me tha crosstalk link
nicholas0: i just invite myself to it with the chat button
nicholas0: https://crosstalk.im
leefymoon: thx broski
John Travoltage: I just invited myself to the chatroom in AIM 6: AIM->Chat->Buddy Chat... then put your username in the big box and "lastcall" in the skinny box
nicholas0: yeah thats what i do
nicholas0: i would just IM discord but yknow discord isnt up anymore
dskooper: escargot today is still up
dskooper: nina weather is gone
AwesomeNameHere: yep
dskooper: we lost nina weather ;_;
AwesomeNameHere: rip
nicholas0: ofc escargot today is still up
nicholas0: its not nina
dskooper: nina weather can be accessed via escargot
John Travoltage: Oh, Crosstalk is about to undergo maintenance
dskooper: wha
Animadoria: I should bring up NINA Weather as Escargot Weather
John Travoltage: I just got a dialog box about it...
nicholas0: yeah i did too
AwesomeNameHere: i feel bad for tony. seeing his work gone (except for escargot i think)
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nicholas0: escargot is safe for now
AwesomeNameHere: untill...
leefymoon: they drop the bomb :-(
nicholas0: tactical nuke incoming
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invislol: microsoft doesn't care about msn (yet...)
nicholas0: microsoft already went after escargot
BIGBADAUD999: Guys forgot to tell my crosstalk is BIGBADAUD999@internet.ru
AwesomeNameHere: yep
nicholas0: for the wlm logo
BIGBADAUD999: save to don't lose
nicholas0: today this chat will likely be entirely logged
nicholas0: so
leefymoon: aw fiddlesticks crosstalk is now down
BIGBADAUD999: wdym
BIGBADAUD999: oh...
BIGBADAUD999: i checked
BIGBADAUD999: 0 online
leefymoon: yah
BIGBADAUD999: ;-;
invislol: i havent left at all this whole time
BIGBADAUD999: dang...
John Travoltage: They're down for maintenance, don't get in a twist
invislol: who else has been here for hours
BIGBADAUD999: oh
dskooper: guess who is ready to pull an all-nighter? me
John Travoltage: Me... been here since the early afternoon
nicholas0: ive been here for hours
nicholas0: im staying here until nina shuts down
AwesomeNameHere: i guess me
Masquerade: Technically but I'm super afk
nicholas0: or until i get super tired
nicholas0: whichever comes first
leefymoon: real
invislol: i'm staying until the end!
leefymoon: YEAHHH
AwesomeNameHere: im recording NINA history
John Travoltage: Heck, I was apparently first on the scene with the news :-!
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dfuser: All Aboard!
AwesomeNameHere: say anything
leefymoon: oh lol
dskooper: ive pulled ~5am all nighters before
dskooper: i am ready
leefymoon: me too
nicholas0: ive stayed awake for super long times before too
Phlud: im always here
nicholas0: been trying to fix my sleep schedule, but i guess this is more important
AwesomeNameHere: yes
John Travoltage: I pulled an all-nighter exactly once... never again
AwesomeNameHere: much more important
invislol: who's been here (as in not left at all) the longest
nicholas0: weekend, anyway, don't exactly need good sleep i guess
nicholas0: ive been in here the longest maybe
nicholas0: i dont think so
Xak: I gotta be up in 6 hours. Will be calling it a night soon :-\
nicholas0: but i havent left
nicholas0: so
invislol: you have the whole thing logged?
nicholas0: nvm i have left i just remembered
John Travoltage: I tried to not leave, but I got bumped off at various points :'(
nicholas0: i do not have the whole thing logged
leefymoon: my msn is leefymoon for any1 that wants to add me!!
nicholas0: absolutely not
invislol: mm
dskooper: hold on i just realised nina stocks is also gone
nicholas0: i could log a good bit of it
invislol: leefymoon which msn is it
invislol: crosstalk or escargot
leefymoon: escargot mb
invislol: k
nicholas0: NOOO NINA STOCKS
nicholas0: IT'S DEAD
leefymoon: rip
AwesomeNameHere: should i join CrossTalk?
invislol: yes
nicholas0: yes
Phlud: no
nicholas0: we're all there, join the fun :-)
nicholas0: well
nicholas0: all*
leefymoon: when its not in matinence lol
nicholas0: *not actually all
nicholas0: most
AwesomeNameHere: making one rn
John Travoltage: But anyways! There are at least two copies of the log online now: Mine at https://jfsworld.net/conf-lastcall.html and Phlud's at https://www.oldhacker.org/philez/LastC all.htm.
AwesomeNameHere: account*
Phlud: 8-)
nicholas0: should i save my log
dskooper: im about to save a log too
Xak: Saved
nicholas0: oh wait idk how to save a log
nicholas0: i dont think i can
Phlud: i had to start a second log
John Travoltage: Ah, Crosstalk is back
invislol: i havent been kicked at all
nicholas0: nvm i can
Phlud: which is annoying
nicholas0: found it
dskooper: im going to save my log when the final message appears
dskooper: from aol system msg
nicholas0: yeah
John Travoltage: (also your email change finally took invislol)
invislol: heh
nicholas0: yup
nicholas0: took a server restart ahaha
invislol: lmao
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John Travoltage: I wonder if that game thingy from earlier is still running...
Animadoria: For those wondering, "when will NINA shut down?"
John Travoltage: Final Fantasy VIII
John Travoltage: ...guess not
Animadoria: we're jsut waiting on a response and then we'll know
invislol: ah
BIGBADAUD999: oh..
nicholas0: ah
BIGBADAUD999: well i'm gtg rn
BIGBADAUD999: to sleep
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nicholas0: waiting on a response for what?
nicholas0: yahoo?
BIGBADAUD999: but well ik probably AIM is going to be dead soon so it's sad...
BIGBADAUD999: gn yal
BIGBADAUD999: :<
leefymoon: bye broski
AdamTheStick: we're all gathered here to die with our ship
John Travoltage: From Tony, I'm guessing
AdamTheStick: i got here late
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nicholas0: or that
Animadoria: From Yahoo, Inc. yes
nicholas0: figured
John Travoltage: Well I was way off then
dskooper: Animadoria, will there be a few minutes before you actually shut it down
invislol: we live together
invislol: we die together
dskooper: like 5 mins for example
Animadoria: yes lol, we'll announce it
dskooper: ok
nicholas0: alr
Animadoria: so that there can be a few last words to NINA
leefymoon: they really put the last in last call boys
AdamTheStick: its a shame some corporation can randomly choose to destroy a dedicated community's livelihood just because they have a trademark that they never use
AdamTheStick: lol yeah leefy
AdamTheStick: this truly is, the last call
AwesomeNameHere: CrossTalk account is AwesomeNameHere if anymore wanted to know i guess
chrmdr324: Well... they still use it in some contexts.
nicholas0: whats email
AdamTheStick: :-X
invislol: everybody's in the crosstalk discord right??
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leefymoon: no wait
nicholas0: AwesomeNameHere what's your crosstalk email
John Travoltage: While I am going to miss the stylings of AIM 6... I have to admit WLM 8.5 is growing on me :-*
AwesomeNameHere: Awesomenamehere@msn.com if thats correct
AwesomeNameHere: idk
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chrmdr324: I'll join the Crosstalk Discord later. I might not sign up to Crosstalk proper for a while yet.
invislol: shit NO
invislol: I LOST IT
invislol: FUCK
nicholas0: NOOO
AwesomeNameHere: damn
invislol: thank god for phlud
leefymoon: should i use 8.5 or 2009 for wlm
invislol: 2009
dskooper: what happens when you save? does it wipe the chat room when you save?
invislol: no
invislol: my aim crashed
dskooper: oh ok
chrmdr324: No, it just saves a copy of everything up to the moment you click Save, at least, on AIM 5.0.
leefymoon: rip
invislol: and i hadn't fucking saved
nicholas0: phlud has a whole log right
loganh4005: Animadoria, is it true that NINA initially got a cease and decist for the NINA logo, which was ignored by the people leading NINA?
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Animadoria: No lol
Animadoria: Where did that come from
chrmdr324: Rumor mill, I guess...
loganh4005: https://wink.messengergeek.com/t/nina-esca rgot-from-the-inside/26336
invislol: who has the full logs agani
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John Travoltage: For my part, I turned on the option in the AIM settings to automatically keep logs, so as to avoid this exact situation...
invislol: again*
Animadoria: I did say that was wrong in my response
Animadoria: and that date, september 12th, also wrong
loganh4005: But then you asked "where did that come from"
invislol: seriously tho who has the log
Animadoria: I mean where did that originate from
loganh4005: I'm keeping a log aswell
invislol: ik phlud has it but i didnt log the link
John Travoltage: As far as publication on the web is concerned, it's my copy at https://jfsworld.net/conf-lastcall.html and Phlud's at https://www.oldhacker.org/philez/LastC all.htm.
loganh4005: Apparently from someone inside of escargot, and I already sent you a link to where I found it from
AdamTheStick: where's the nina escargot discord server? is it gone too?
invislol: ahh ok
Animadoria: that doesn't make sense
John Travoltage: Oh, you sweet summer child... that went out the windows the other day
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chrmdr324: I have a log of my own. Unfortunately it only goes back as far as when I shut down the Win3.1 VM and switched back to AIM 5.
Animadoria: The lawyers were waiting for a response on... September 21st. We already messaged them again, so...
AdamTheStick: oh the humanity
AdamTheStick: :-(
Animadoria: "Please let us know if you have any questions about the above and we are of course happy to discuss. Otherwise, we'll look forward to your response preferably by September 21, 2025."
chrmdr324: Yeah, the timing on that was god-awful.
chrmdr324: First the Discord server, now this whole mess...
AdamTheStick: im sure they'd be happy considering they're destroying livelihoods here >:-(
nicholas0: so nina will likely stay up for longer than just today?
Xak: The day after they shut down dial-up??
invislol: john is yours the most complete or no
Masquerade: I only even noticed cause I have vencord and a plugin that tells me when I get unadded from stuff
AwesomeNameHere: does NINA really end like this??!
AdamTheStick: feels like we're huddled in a bomb shelter right now
Animadoria: We have sent a message confirming when we have to take it all completely down so we can pay NINA its respects. I worked on this for a long time, I wanna know when I have to take everything down
nicholas0: i just scrolled down to the bottom of my discord server list and noticed a lack of nina and escargot
John Travoltage: I got bumped off at a few points relatively close to right now, so it's not the 100% complete thing.
John Travoltage: With any luck, Phlud's copy can fill in the gaps.
chrmdr324: My server list was short enough that I noticed it gone from the bottom!
nicholas0: i have a good deal of a log
Phlud: theres a slight gap in my cuz i got punted
invislol: we'll do some sort of merge thingy
dskooper: i have a log as well (from 1:48am bst)
AwesomeNameHere: tbh does anyone use ICQ? just asking
Phlud: uploading a second log soon
chrmdr324: I signed up for Discord just to get onto NINA early...
Animadoria: Non-essential things are being shut down anyway, it's just the core service we're waiting for a response
chrmdr324: I mean, there's other servers I hang out on a lot, but the NINA/Escargot server was the first I joined.
Animadoria: But I am really really sorry about everything. I'm sorry for being harsh to others, for gatekeeping info, for everything
chrmdr324: We'll always have IRC, no matter what happens with all the revival projects.
nicholas0: i should hop back on irc someday
nicholas0: maybe
nicholas0: just to see how active irc is
invislol: it's alright anima (even with some of tony's (alleged) bs)
nicholas0: i mean of course it's active
chrmdr324: Nets may come and go, but there will always be some of them active. Libera Chat is pretty lively, in fact.
seXy: i'm always on efnet #aol, #idlerpg and #trivia recently
Animadoria: What I wanted to do was a cool project. Doesn't help that I have really bad trust issues and I get scared of my own work and always think people can do a better job
AdamTheStick: all is forgiven
AdamTheStick: we are all the same on this day
chrmdr324: I don't blame you -- you always seemed like a cool guy, Animadoria.
AdamTheStick: agreed
dskooper: Honestly, I'd rather NINA end now rather than in a week's time. No point having it run basically as a husk waiting for the eventual response from Yahoo
invislol: what you pulled off was amazing anima
dfuser: There's no point in holding onto NINA when there was ... two C&Ds? That's what I know
AdamTheStick: this was indeed a cool project and the best one in AIM hisory
nicholas0: it was wonderful while it lasted
AwesomeNameHere: indeed
dfuser: One was alleged to be ignored and the second is what caused NINA to rapid shutter
invislol: nina was (is) amazing
dskooper: it was one of the aim projects of all time
nicholas0: unsure if all the drama is true, but i'm still glad i got to have a good time
loganh4005: Another thing, I've heard from some people who were/are in NINA/Escargot staff position that 1. NINA/Escargot was not "in trouble" and "in active need of more money", 2. NINA/Escargot server costs were 2-300$, while Escargot/NINA make 800+$ in monthly operating income, and 3. that most of the money fundrased was pocketed by Tony. Is this true?
leefymoon: its ok anima, i don'r think there's any reason to be mad at you anymore. fact is that you developed an amazing community and i'm happy that i was a part of it <3
Animadoria: Again, I'm not sure where "NINA GOT A C&D" came from, we didn't ignore anything lol
invislol: oh
dfuser: That's what I heard
dfuser: Let me look at something rq
invislol: i've been going off the MG forums stuff
AwesomeNameHere: what a C&D?
nicholas0: lots of rumors going around i suppose
dskooper: cease and desist
dfuser: Did NINA receive any communication from AOL/Yahoo?
chrmdr324: Yeah... getting enough of AOL Desktop running that you could click through most of the menus was phenomenal.
chrmdr324: Not to mention hooking the old news pages up to what I assume was an RSS aggregator!
chrmdr324: That was neat.
AdamTheStick: this was the most complete of all the servers since aim actually shut down
loganh4005: my message was just ignored :sob:
AdamTheStick: :'(
nicholas0: i think a lot of what was going on in the inside of nina and escargot, if the things people are saying is true, is actually like horrible but uhhhhhhh i'm still really glad i had a good time before this ended
Animadoria: i'm typign dw
Animadoria: lol
nicholas0: and see you all on crosstalk once it ends
loganh4005: ok
AwesomeNameHere: same
AdamTheStick: im not there yet
invislol: see you on crosstalk (semi-unrelated but many are shitting on escargot rn in the discord)
nicholas0: yeah
AdamTheStick: is there a new discord?
chrmdr324: Yeah, I probably will. Haven't signed up yet, but probably will just to keep up with all of you.
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invislol: the crosstalk one
nicholas0: no we're just hanging out in the crosstalk discord
AdamTheStick: oh
invislol: ye
invislol: that
AdamTheStick: ill join it
water: oh poop!
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invislol: shit we lost another one
Phlud: dookie water
dskooper: rip water
dfuser: I've been kinda talkin shit kinda not, I don't how much of NINA is in the balance
AwesomeNameHere: rip
AdamTheStick: listening to mozart's lacrimosa right now and it slams
invislol: people keep saying that escargot's been scamming people
dskooper: what???
invislol: in the crosstalk discord
nicholas0: i dont think it's exactly scamming
Phlud: gossip
nicholas0: scamming isn't the right word, i don't think
dskooper: scamming is an interesting word
Animadoria: logan, I don't wanna speak for Tony, and I feel like whatever I say will just be taken the wrong way, but the donations also covered for us, Tony had health issues for a long time and it helped cover it, I didn't take it because I don't have a family to help out. I do agree that we should've been more transparent
invislol: ahh
invislol: ok
nicholas0: transparency was a big part of why everyone thought this was wrong
nicholas0: i think
chrmdr324: It's not a scam, people donated. I'm a little disappointed that what I paid for alpha access has only lasted a bit over a year, but under the circumstances, I can't fault you for pulling the plug.
Animadoria: Do I feel like absolute shit for not being more transparent and open? Absolutely.
dfuser: My biggest problem with Escargot is that none of the (I assume new) code was not open sourced, which lended to transparency issues
AdamTheStick: either way we had a great time here
chrmdr324: Agreed.
invislol: a toast to nina and the great times we've had here!
chrmdr324: Hear hear!
AdamTheStick: a toast
invislol: *clinking of glasses*
AdamTheStick: *clink*
leefymoon: clink
chrmdr324: clink
AwesomeNameHere: i couldn't log into escargot (msn) for some reason
nicholas0: clink
John Travoltage: clink
dfuser: *plastic noises because i can't drink so i have to use a solo cup*
AdamTheStick: lol
invislol: xD
AwesomeNameHere: clink
invislol: anyways ima save the log now so i dont miss all the clinking
Animadoria: Also, not sure if anyone noticed, but I always avoided any money stuff as much as possible. I hate every thing about it
invislol: alright!
Xak: *clink*
nicholas0: people in the crosstalk server are trying to say it's bullshit,
Animadoria: I hate asking people for money, I hate every single thing related to money
chrmdr324: For a bit, it really felt like we had a little chunk of the old Internet back.
John Travoltage: Well, they do say money is the root of all evil...
dfuser: I think I've had like
dfuser: Maybe the most autistic amount of animosity
dfuser: Because Autism Tends to Hold a Grudge Worse Than Most Normal People
dfuser: Got egregiously pissed over a username I didn't get to have with the username transfer, and got egregiously pissed over the lack of open source components of Escargot
dfuser: That's why I stopped using it for a while
dfuser: "username transfer" -> "username system switchover"
invislol: (people think the health issues thing is bullshit in crosstalk discord) i stopped using because i forgot :P
chrmdr324: I think nearly all of us are a little bit special (LOL).
leefymoon: ...is the crosstalk wlm 14.0 msi supposed to work?? help pls
invislol: it should work
nicholas0: chrmdr324: I think nearly all of us are a little bit special (LOL).
invislol: i'm going to still use escargot for the time being
nicholas0: ahahaha in a community like this? of course
dfuser: No yeah
dfuser: 99% of nu-AIMers have to be autistic
Xak: Not to speak for anyone, but to share my perspective. Anima and Tony dedicated a lot of their time on this project. I do not feel like they "stole" anything from anyone. If donations were used for more than server costs, I wish there was more transparency, but I don't feel cheated.
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dfuser: Extremely non-scientific hypothesis
dskooper: leefy ask for crosstalk help in the crosstalk discord, not here
dfuser: But if you're using AIM like right now, get diagnosed lol
dfuser: It is very likely
invislol: i at least have ADHD (at least afaik)
invislol: most likely autistic
nicholas0: i dont feel scammed per se, but i wish there was more transparency on where the donos would go
dfuser: I have both ADD and Autism :DDDDDDD
invislol: xD
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Animadoria: and I feel the
John Travoltage: Ha! I already was 8-)
Animadoria: I don't know how to say it
leefymoon: afk for a sec, dont go anywhere!!
Xak: It's not like these guys collected millions or even hundreds of thousands of dollars
AdamTheStick: disconnected there for a short sec but im back
chrmdr324: I already am with a couple different things! I never mentioned it before because I didn't want to attract unwanted attention, but I'm also trans!
Animadoria: I appreciate every single one of you who donated and if there's anything I can provide for you to feel like you got a bang for your buck, I'm more than happy to help out
AdamTheStick: the only thing yahoo did was ruin everyones fun
leefymoon: woop me too chrmdr
AwesomeNameHere: does google count too?
invislol: forwarded CrossTalk discord message: "playboy: I blame anima much less on this regard personally than tony, especially knowing first hand just how much of a manipulator tony can be" | also in case you guys didn't know im also trans :3
invislol: anima this was really nice (i definitely got my money's worth!)
Animadoria: lol playboy
loganh4005: I would still interpret it as scamming. We were under the impression that NINA would collapse if it weren't for donations, when NINA was absolutely fine, and making a profit for that matter. A lot of people in the crosstalk server, and in here have felt scammed that their money was 1. not going to where it should have gone, and 2. went to a company that wasn't about to run out of money, and was in fact making a net profit. I am monetairly speaking, not in a good place to be able to donate to NINA, the only way I can pay for things online is with Visa gift cards, which are very expensive. I have one saved for domain renewals, so I could keep my lights on, but seeing as escargot claimed that they were nearly dry, I spent money out of that reserved pot for escargot, which I would not have done othewise.
Animadoria: oh wow jesus hold on
loganh4005: playboy is epicness
invislol: ah
nicholas0: text wall jumpscare
invislol: forgot/didnt know xP
dfuser: Okay well
dfuser: I have business optics if I could potentially interject
loganh4005: say your opinions!
Phlud: buzz words
invislol: do your interjection (quickly tho)
John Travoltage: Go on... Hit me with your best shot
invislol: and fire away
dfuser: Buzz words buzz words but like I have Some Business-Level Words
dfuser: [typing]
seXy: hope tony got his 200(maybe more) worth from me :-\
nicholas0: i donated like 30
Phlud: sucker
invislol: i donated like just enough for gamma ages ago
nicholas0: worth it for aol while it lasted? sure
chrmdr324: Hey leefymoon, could I have your Discord handle?
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